ya those are beautiful! i still love the look of the mud grapplers, but i dont know if i can throw new tires on it every year - year and a half, i rather spend $200 more and have it last me close to double the time. thanks a lot hammer

 

problem with the mtz's is that the biggest rim they hold are 17's and i have 20's and imnot about to get rid of the rims that i paid almost $4k for!

 

Yea, an intermediate size off road tire (33-35") is going to be harder to find for a 20" wheel. Most 4x4 owners won't look at 20" tires until you start getting to 38"+ as you can't really effectively use smaller sizes on a big wheel off road. Not enough meat for flex or floatation.
As you say though, you're not big into off roading. I believe the MTZ is only available in 36" & 38" for 20" wheels. How much lift you got and how wide are your wheels? They make a 36x15.5x20.
The Mud Version of my tire is available in a 35x12.5x20 and even a 305/55/20, which I believe is a little over 33". If the Mud Country lasts anything like the Fun Country, your truck will wear out before the tires do.

 

right now i havea 3" lift and soon im gonna have a leveling kit, which i was talking to you about before, i just gotta find someone to do it for a good price and all.and even them im hoping it'll clear the 35's. i dont know the width of my rims. but i know it will hold 12.5's and will definatly clear 33's so im pushing for 35's. what do you think?

 

Yea, with 5" up front and 3" in the rear you'll clear 35x12.5's with no issues...
Unfortunately I don't know anyone personally with the Mud Countries, but like I said if they wear and perform ANYTHING like the Fun Country II's, you can't go wrong. I'd have gotten them, but I got my Fun Countries almost two years ago and the Mud's came on the market the beginning of '07. At two years old, my FC's show no wear at all, so I won't be in the tire market till after I replace this truck, I'm sure. My old 33" Mickey MTXs (an A/T tire) I sold with 29k on them to a buddy of mine and he's got almost 10k on them, that's just shy of 40k and they look like he'll get at least another 20-30k out of 'em.
But, I'll tell you, any decent tire in a 35x12.5x20 is gonna cost you big time. That size tire in a 20" is expensive from anybody. I just did a quick check and found the Mud Countries in that size are a little over $300 each...

 

ya, they seem to range from $285, which are the mudd grapplers which i still wantand are a a lot cheaper, to $350 for the toyo open country's and a lot in between such as the DC's and MT's. I wont be putting tires on for another 2 or 3 months because im gonna drive my falkens until theyre complete ****. but i still want to keep my eye out so i know what to get when the time comes and i can also keep my eye open for any deals.I'm still tossed with the mud grapplers, i want them badly, but i dont know how the 20,000 mile wear is gonna hit me...... are they bald BALD after that or do they have some tread, just not efficient for off-roading?

 

Put it this way, the guy I know in GA. who gets them every year has them looking like he'd fail inspection a good 3-5k before he replaces them if GA. was an inspection state...

 

well damn..... that throws my whole thought and process of getting tires...time to rethink it now. ive just never seen such an agressive tire before

 

hammer: what do you think of Mickey Thompson Tire M/T BAJA ATZ 4 RIB?


http://www.performanceplustire.com/p...-20#prodAnchor

 

I answered the same question you PM'd me with, too lazy to type twice...