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Old 01-29-2008 | 09:28 AM
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Here are my 2 ignorant cents.
You get equity to buy a car, if you expand it to 10 to 15 to 30 years, how much did you really buy the car for? Unless you have your house paid off, then I can see buying a car with equity, but still when you do the numbers how much did the car cost you? Its not the same as buying it cash.

To you Espositoman, you knew you were going to walk away from the second job, yet you put it in the application form. What did you think, that they were not going to call? Dont get me wrong, you like the truck and probably can afford it on one job and I hope you have budgeted gas, but you also have to understand that banks now are going through a lot ****e. They have to look after themselves and not loose any more money. So, if they cant approve you, its probably because they feel you can afford it. With your credit score low and one income, they see you as a risk and of course they have to raise interest rates.

By the way, hitting your credit history for the same thing (as for car purchase) will not affect your credit. If you apply for a car, then 2 to 3 credit cards, then a house, then to move to an apartment, that will affect your credit score.

Bottom line is, dont be afraid to walk away. There will be other trucks for you. Also, like it was said here, you are young, get a car for transportation and finish school. Save your money, because in 2 years you will be able to buy your own place dirt cheap.
I am not scared to walk away. Like I stated before, if the terms are changed in anyway, I will walk away and will not re-sign a new contract deal. I am just waiting for them to get back to me today and see what they say.
 
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Old 01-29-2008 | 11:31 AM
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you havent said if you signed all the papers and if you have a pay check stub that would varifiy that you were employed at the time you signed the papers. I am serious about talking to a lawyer to find out your rights. ALSO, Hide the truck until you find out where you stand.
MoparMan, I am sure you are a fantastic car salesman, but showing proof of income that he knows is not going to be there during the duration of the loan is a fraudulent representation of income, and is a felony... He knew he would be starting school andquitting the second jobwhen he went in to buy the truck.

And, if a sales manager thinks they have a deal, and can't get it finalized immediately, YOU BETTER BELIEVE that they WILL let the car off the lot (as long as the driver has proof of insurance....which WE call and verify before they leave....i know this to be a fact because we had a con-artist come in and steal a car via those means...long story) What I am saying is, just because HE signed the paper, does not mean that the deal is done. Once again, if false information is provided, the contract is null/void. HOw many deals have you had roll back 2 weeks later because of misinformation provided by the customer that affects the terms of the loans. If this has never happened to you, then either you are REALLY LUCKY or have not done a lot of deals.

To Espo... get ready to say goodbye to your truck...I hate it for you...Not trying to be a dick, but you brought this on yourself. The terms ARE GOING TO CHANGE....This is not a scam, it is what the finance companies are doing now that we are in a credit crunch. Loan delinquency rates have been on a steady rise over the course of the last year, because people were buying more than they could afford via means similar to this and banks were loaning money very liberally. Now that the underwriting standards have changed, more documentation and verification is required forMOST LOANS.If they required both incomes to finance the deal, then job 1 is not providing enough income.

Don't HIDE the truck. That is a BAD idea. Like tupac said, I would say take the truck back, finish with school and get a real job that will provide enough income that you can comfortably afford the truck. Buy something that you can comfortably afford and BUILD YOUR CREDIT so when you do want the truck, you will have solid credit and be able to get aspecial GRADUATE FINCANCE RATE AND SALE PRICE... (finance company will call the school to make sure you are a recent graduate...normally within 6-12 months depending on the company...these loans are usually pretty favorable especially if you have some established credit)

BTW...your "Co-signer" will actually be the owner of the truck and you will be the co-signer. Your uncle will actually end up on the front of the deal... Just a heads up! (will not benefit your credit nearly as much as if you are on the front of the deal)
 
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Old 01-29-2008 | 01:05 PM
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Sir Hardin Thicke , If you fall behind on your house and the bank takes your house are you going to live in your truck... or would you sell it to get the cash to get back on your feet. SobomasterIf you are going to pay it off in one year then why not pay cash? 1 years worth of tax deductions on $40000 is almost nothing.

Like I said in the first place Finish school ,get a good job ,buy a house, buy a car. Do not live above your means. eltupacand mfs212has nailed everything right on.


 
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Old 01-29-2008 | 01:11 PM
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do what i did..... dont pay the ****ers....just tell me ull kick their *** it always works lmao but yeah that sucks man...dont know what id do without my truck
 
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Old 01-29-2008 | 01:13 PM
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If I had the money for that purchase in cash, I clearly wouldn't finance, but at the low home equity rates of today, I'd rather finance like that, than through just a regular loan. Some deduction is better than no deduction... it sure helps on my taxes.
 
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Old 01-29-2008 | 02:37 PM
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Dodge has been offering a 0% loan for 36 mo for a couple of years now with no penalty for early payments. Why pay 6-7% when you can get 0% and pay it off in a year? This is clearly the cheapest way... If you pay it off in one year why not save your money for 1 year and pay cash. Getting back or saving from paying the $5 from your taxes is not worth it considering you will pay over $2000 in intrest to finance. Something smells funny. Let's just say so far I have done very well and I am trying to give good adviseso others do not have to learn the hard way.

EspoManI wish you all the luck on whatever you decide, just trying to inform you on what you could be getting into.

 
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Old 01-29-2008 | 02:43 PM
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By the way, EspoMan, thanks for posting this, I think a lot of people on here that have never bought a new car will learn a lot from what has happenedto you. Now they canknow what to expect now when they go to the dealer.
 
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Old 01-29-2008 | 02:45 PM
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Dodge has been offering a 0% loan for 36 mo for a couple of years now with no penalty for early payments. Why pay 6-7% when you can get 0% and pay it off in a year? This is clearly the cheapest way...
B/c if you take the loan, then you didn't get all of the rebates and discounts. I got over 12k off the sticker price on my truck. I rather take that.
 
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Old 01-29-2008 | 03:03 PM
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12000 off the truck was notall rebate, you got them to come down on the price of thetruck. dodge offers 1500 - 4000 in rebates on average. You will pay that in intrest the first year. No more arguements from me... good luck
 
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Old 01-29-2008 | 03:13 PM
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When I bought my truck, it was 6,000 rebate from Dodge or 0% here in Central Texas. I clearly chose the rebate. That was late September of 2007. The other 6k+ i negotiated off, correct. At 6.5% of 26,000 over 1 year, that's only about 1,000 in interest. You have to figure that as the truck is paid off, you only pay interest on the remaining balance. So, after about 7 months, I should be half way paid off, paying interest on 13k at that point. The total is somewhere around 1,000. Your math was way off.

Additionally, considering I have a home equity line of credit, it's much easier to write a check and tap into that line of credit, than to have to deal with being approved for a loan, having the dealer run my credit, etc. Not only is the rate then about the same, but the little interest I do pay is tax deductible. Plus, as I pay it off, I have that equity back again. After I write the check, I can lock in the rate at that point in time, or keep it variable.

If one is responsible financially, it makes sense to do that. Not to mention it was much easier. I couldn't afford to pay cash up front and I didn't want to wait a year b/c I needed a bigger Ram right now.
 


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