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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben D.
I drive in ****ty roads plenty enough. I've never found a need for it. just know what you're doing and you're fine. I've never spun out gotten stuck or anything. it's all in throttle control and knowing what you're doing.
It may be done, but not as long as I'm driving. I drive like a crazy guy when it snows out...lol It's so much fun. I remember last year I was on the highway and 3 plows were blocking off the whole highway oing 30mph. I waited for the on ramp, barrelled through the 3ft high wall the truck had just made(it was soft) and past those suckers. Right after that I was doing about 85 or so and past by a state trooper who was crusing in the middle lane. Now there's about 6" of loose snow on the ground. He turned his lights on and couldn't even move...aahahahahaha I kept going...It was frickin funny. NOW, the trooper cars are Crown Vic's and are rear wheel drive. He couldn't move any faster to save his own life. His car fish tailed to one side just after I passed him because he hit his gas. They have those trunks loaded with all kinds of crap and weight.
I would much rather have 4x4 here in upstate NY and would much rather have some weight in the bed for added traction and stability.
Another time it was snowing very heavily with 8" of snow and ice mix. I was just sitting in traffic and I always pay attention in the rear view mirror and leave enough room in front of me so I can have room to get out and go around...lol This car was going a little too fast and started to weave a little from sliding when hitting the brakes. I jammed on the gas and had to drive over the snow bank, over the curb and up a small hill into a McDonald's parking lot to avoid that idiot from hitting me. She ended up slamming into the car that was infront of me. Now, if I was trying to be a tough guy and was only in 2wd even though I had 4wd, I would have felt like the biggest idiot in the world becuase there's no way i would have been able to go through that snow bank and over those curbs while climbing that hill, let alone how fast it needed to be done. If the roads are covered with even 2" of snow, it's 4x4 time. That's why I own a 4x4 and try to always have a game plan if something goes wrong.
 

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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Ben D.
any weight is a little much. I've driven pickup trucks my entire life and i've never once found a need for 4x4 in the winter let alone weight in the bed. all you need is to be smart and know what you're doing. I've never had a spin out or have i gotten stuck before.
If I had $20.00 for every time I've heard that......ha ha...oh wait, I do. Pulled 12 of ya out last year at 20 and one smart *** I got for 40. Beats waiting forever for a tow truck at $60.00, now doesn't it. Yeah, just gotta know how to drive....LOL.... This guy knew how to drive and even had it in 4wd without any weight....he he....easy money...
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The no weight, no 4wd may work in your area, but you won't get far like that around here in the lake effect snowhellzone. We got close to a foot of snow last Thursday night. To us, that's a light dusting, LOL. Off to a great start already this year. Made a easy $40.00 on the way to work Friday morning.

Ditch queens (simalar to trailer queens) is what we call them around here. You know, afraid to put a little weight in the back of thier pretty truck...don't want to scratch the bed. And the soccer moms in their AWD SUV's, don't want them ugly sand bags in the back....gotta love it.

Seriously though, after driving and experimenting with different vehicles for more than 30 winters, it's a no brainer. We measure snow with a yardstick, not a ruler here. You want to go, add some weight over the main drive axle, you want to sit and spin, don't add any. Simple physics, in any appreciable amount of snow, the majority of the vehicle weight (engine) is on the front end burying it up in the snow, the rear wheels will just spin.

I don't put any weight in my 3rd gen because we rarely drive it in the winter here. It's fun to take out once in a while and do doughnuts or powerslides, but that's about all it's good for empty. Even way to squrirely with extra weight and my lead foot. Those stock 20's pushed by a Hemi with LSD just suck in the deep snow. Wifes Front WD Cirrus sticks to the road, and will get up and go better than that truck.

My second gen is a whole different story. Started out in '96 with just the added weight of the cap and about a 150 pound tool box. Damn, that was scarey. So in '97 I tried 480 pounds over the rear axle....difference was like night and day! Never looked back. In '99 I added a 600+ pound plow, and ever since, upped the weight in the rear to 640 pounds + cap, +tool box. That baby is unstoppable now, just digs and goes. Yeah, it may burn a little more gas hauling the extra weight, but probably equal to the amout I'd burn spinning the tires trying to get the hog moving anyway. And actually I think it's stops better in the snow with the extra weight.....but not so much on dry pavement obviously.

Guess it just depends on how much and what type of snow ya'll get in your area. Suppose if we just got a foot of that light powdery stuff say 20 to 25 times a year, I wouldn't worry so much. But we get alot of that heavy wet snow, and you won't be plowing through a foot of that in 2WD without some weight, guaranteed, don't care how "good" you think you can drive.

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On second thought, don't add any......just carry a little cash....I've always got my ****** straps just in case. I'll stop and help if I aint busy. Let it $$$$SNOW$$$$!
 
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 05:11 AM
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^^^^ You are Right

Ditch Queens
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Just remember to Charge More.. WHEN THEY KNOW HOW TO DRIVE, in 12'' of snow with a 4wd truck in 2wd, and no extra wieght..
 
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