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My first mod, Leveling kit.

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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 09:30 PM
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Going along with the topic of leveling it, I measured on my truck to see the difference in height between the front wheel wells, and the back ones, and my front were 3' 2.5" and my back just about 3' 4". What size leveling kit would you need for that difference? I just don't want to have it look goofy and too high up in the front end. Sorry to steal your thread.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 10:42 PM
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Also, you are confusing the issue a bit, yes he has Torsion Bars, but Coil Overs are STILL AN IFS FRONT END
Never said anything about a coil over not being an IFS front end, although (I love the capital letters by the way). I thought my answer was pretty straight forward. I just wanted to make sure he knew that coil spacers wouldn't work with his '05.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 11:04 PM
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its a typo, only '06+ Rams have coil springs on 4x4s you have torsion bars (get under & look)... You'd need keys.... You will find NO springs under there...
 
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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That's what I said in my original post. It's also why I gave him the link to the coil specific rams like the 06 and newer or the older 96-01 1/2 tons so he would know the difference.

Trust me I know you think you're a magic man when it comes to this stuff but I've been in the 4x4 and Offroad industry for 20 years and modifying Dodge trucks for 8 years while working in my own offroad shop here in Colorado. Sometimes you need to get off your high horse and realize that you don't know everything about these trucks while assuming that everybody that chimes in here from time to time are morons. Just because you have a list of bolt-ons on your truck and most likely had somebody else professionally install them (like myself) does not make you an expert.

Do the site a favor and be more supportive in your comments and you'll keep people around here longer and actually offer constructive feedback. I'm not only talking about this thread, I'm talking about the numerous threads I've read before I temporarily joined this site. There are a lot more informative and more knowlegeable sites out there so for this to be happening while you're supposedly moderating and knowing what you're talking about is ridiculous.

Good luck with this site as you're losing another knowlegeable member who could have brought some light to the website.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 01:50 PM
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Why would you give a link or even mention coil over kits to a novice, asking a question specifically about a truck with torsion bars? You mislead the poor guy and then he's confused!
You are damn right I'm going to jump on a post with information that I know to be misleading or downright wrong! These guys, for the most part, are not made of money, and I'd hate to see them spend money on equipment for their trucks that are incorrect. Even if they could return the parts, they'd lose shipping and return fees!
As far as being an "expert", I'm sorry I have little respect for most "experts", and probably let it come out too much in my posts. I've probably installed more lift kits on trucks FOR FREE and swapped out broken suspension components FOR FREE for friends and members of various forums previously unknown to me than many "experts" have for an out of line fee!
If you've read a good many of my posts, I've stated many times that I don't do this for a living, never have. I know some areas well, like suspensions and a good many bolt on's, but often advise people to seek information on more hard core issues like heads, cams, blowers and the like from more qualified sources than myself. I've done all my own mods except my gears and LSD, because, admittedly, I don't have the knowledge to undertake that mod. As often stated, I will be paying a performance shop to do my cam install. Again because, even though technically I know what needs to be done, I don't have the experience necessary to comfortably undertake it.
As far as your "hacking" at this forum in general, and stating that I am in fact responsible for a loss in membership, membership here has never been higher and continues to grow. I am also on a good many other forums, both truck related, off-road related and others. I am fully aware that some are geared toward a more knowledgeable crowd, and don't post as often on those. I'm also on a forum that is geared more for real professionals, performance shop techs and owners. I rarely post on that forum other than to RESPECTFULLY ask a question from time to time.
If you are in the industry and can offer some constructive advise to people, I'd hate to see you go, especially if I am the reason you are leaving. If you or any one else disagrees with ANY advice I give, feel free to call me on it. I am aware that I am not the "know all - end all" in truck knowledge. I will probably debate you or anyone else if I believe I am right, but, unless I am just having a really bad day, I do not make any such debates personal. If I am proved wrong, I make it a point to acknowledge it and strive to give the correct advise in the future.
Again, if you have anything constructive to give members here, I ask you to change your mind and stay. I meant nothing personal in my response to your quote, but instead, attempted to clarify what appeared to me to be some mis-information. I do not try to be gruff or hateful, but I have a very dry sense of humor that does not always come out in print as intended. Again, if you feel I was disrespective or personally attacked you openly, I apologize for it...
 

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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 02:59 PM
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+1 on that hammer you have helped me understand a lot by giving helpful feedback constantly myslvr you have no right talking like that be constructive or dont say anything it just doesnt help

I also have a question for when you crank the torsion bars doesn't it put undo stress making it stiffer or will it not matter. and will i be able to go for 100k miles with it and does it effect off road handling being stiffer and not allowing some compression or will it act as normal
 
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Ridinhigh
+1 on that hammer you have helped me understand a lot by giving helpful feedback constantly myslvr you have no right talking like that be constructive or dont say anything it just doesnt help

I also have a question for when you crank the torsion bars doesn't it put undo stress making it stiffer or will it not matter. and will i be able to go for 100k miles with it and does it effect off road handling being stiffer and not allowing some compression or will it act as normal
Thanks alot for the kind words, not just to you, but to the couple of guys who've sent me PM's in the last few minutes. It means a lot to this cranky old fart...
As far as cranking the bars (and installing level keys for that matter), think of it as kinda twisting a rubber band when you crank the bolts a bit. There is a bit more tension on the bars, so yes, the ride will stiffen or harshen a bit. Some hate it, some like the old fashion truck like feel better. Most are indifferent or get used to it as it's a free way to get a lift.
The bars are strong and made to twist and flex during fairly heavy use off road, so I don't think it would make a major impact, even over the life of the truck.
Concerning other front end component wear, the addition of the taller & heavier meats you are making the room for will cause more wear than the crank itself.
I know just about all "Off Road" shops advise against the crank, but have no issue selling you the keys, which basically do the exact same thing. Me thinks it's because they don't make any money off you when you crank 'em.
As with anything though, there is too much of a good thing. The 2.25" you need to sit perfectly level is as far as I'd ever go!
I know some who've tried to cheat the system and do a 1" bock in the rear and tried to get 3" + of level. Now I think you are getting into an area where you are asking for trouble, too much angle on a relatively weak CV axle is a broken CV waiting to happen...
 

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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Ridinhigh
+1 on that hammer you have helped me understand a lot by giving helpful feedback constantly myslvr you have no right talking like that be constructive or dont say anything it just doesnt help
+2 We are all here for one reason or another. We can all share our knowledge (some professional and some not) but in the end we can share our opinions and achieve what we are looking for. I didn't know squat about my truck before I joined this site and with many members help I am now able to share advise with others who might have the same questions I have asked myself. But if I am ever wrong or even misleading I invite other members to make something more clear or steer me in the right direction without jumping down there throat.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by dodgenitto
+2 We are all here for one reason or another. We can all share our knowledge (some professional and some not) but in the end we can share our opinions and achieve what we are looking for. I didn't know squat about my truck before I joined this site and with many members help I am now able to share advise with others who might have the same questions I have asked myself. But if I am ever wrong or even misleading I invite other members to make something more clear or steer me in the right direction without jumping down there throat.
I thought that was what this site was for. I dont "open my keyboard" much unless its for an opinion or i know what im talking about. Ive learned alot from people here and hope to learn more especially from old know it all a$$holes like hammer!
 
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 04:34 PM
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alright i have been reading up a lot today about the t lift and located most of all the equipment needed but i came across one thread about changing the angle of the headlights and it said there was some screw that would allow you to do it and i think i am only going to go 2" with the crank as it will be just about level you wont notice the quarter of an inch and i have also decided to get the dick cepek fcII but dont want 35's so would i be looking at a 305/70/17 or a 315/70/17 i know kinda of stealing the thread but all similiar questions
thanks
 
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