totally agreed the best method i've found is the two bucket wash with grit gaurds in each and I replace the water in the wash bucket twice while doing the truck. but yea i totally agree with that it's just unavoidable

 

It's a sailed ship with getting my refund back, I already did my part and made him redo the truck. He messed up again, and there really isn't anything more I am going to do about it besides stay far away from his shop. I'm just having the dealership do the detail next Monday, they want $99. I told them what happened about the swirl marks everywhere all over the truck, as well as gobs of wax left in places on the paint and on the plastic door handles.

It's just a damn shame that my 2005 pickup truck looks like it has 10 years of abuse on it with all of the swirl marks they left on my truck, so I just want to get it taken care of and brought back to baseline. By no means am I qualified enough to try and fix a mistake. Maybe once the truck is back to looking normal I may buy some of my own products and a portal cable and start doing my own details.

 

Yes. Lets make a day of it.

 

Dude, it's not that hard. For like $150 I think you can get the buffer and a couple of pads and creams. Try buying it first and give it a shot yourself. The machine and products do all the work. I was scared my first time cause a detail guy told me it was really hard. Later reading through all the stuff on the web I figured I could do that. I tried it and got a great result the first time out. Realized it's all in how you look at things. At least try it out on one panel, and if you don't like the results, then have the detailer do the entire truck, but first give it a shot. Go here and see all the stuff you can get and at not bad prices: http://www.autogeek.net/dual-action-polishers.html

 

Ironically enough, my uncle that is visiting us from Wisconsin bought my brother and I a random orbital buffer for our birthday, so detailing my truck is something I'm going to be able to do from now on, pretty excited about that.

However, I wanted to get the swirl marks professionally removed before I start on my truck. I don't want to be messing around with fixing someone else's mistake. So I just dropped the truck off with the dealership and it's getting re-detailed (again) tomorrow morning. I told them how the previous shop left swirl marks all over the paint, and left wax all over the exterior satin trim pieces. Lets see how they do, hopefully they can bring it back to baseline where I can start doing my own detailing. I also removed the rear mud flaps, and as I suspected they left the incision marks where they were just like the fronts had did. He said he is going to attack the marks with a few different kinds of compounds to see what he can do, but if he can't get them out I will have to have that lower section repainted.

 

REPAINTING! I want repainting! I want money! Lol.

 

The dealerships honestly do the best job if you want the truth, and you want to know why, because they have to be able to sell vehicles on their detail jobs, so they make sure that their detail guys do better than any of the others for that purpose, so if you go in get the guys that do the used trade in vehicles, because they really can make a vehicle that came in looking like a POS look presentable.

 

Just picked the truck up from the dealership tonight and it looks great, I'm really pleased with the results. We even aimed the high beams on the paint to give it the ultimate test, and it past the swirl mark test so that's a relief. The only bump I hit in the road today was they detailed the inside of the truck too without my consent. I had made it clear I only wanted the exterior done, but since I dealt with two different women, I think that message was lost in translation. So the whole truck was done, and it looks excellent. Tomorrow I will talk to them about refunding me for the interior. The interior looks just as good as the exterior, but I really can't be charged for something I didn't authorize, hopefully it won't be a big deal to hash out. Other than that the truck looks awesome, just have a couple odds and end things to do with the exterior to finalize it, and then I should be done. I will take some pictures with the digital camera in the morning before I go to work and upload them tomorrow afternoon. That way you guys can get a full idea of what the rig is looking like today

 

Sounds like you had some fun with your truck.
But from my detailing experience, your first time didn't sound that bad. One guy I work with decided to detail his black truck with the buffer, and he made it look like a sea. You didn't need the sunlight shining directly on it to see the swirls.
When your swirls return after washing, it more than likely means that the original wax coat wasn't taken off. We had something waxed up, and there was dirt beneath the wax. It was rinsed off, then a buffer was taken to it. Did nothing for the spots. So by then, the wax was doing its job, and protecting was is underneath it. What I do for removing wax on vehicles is either really good soap, or very dilute degreaser.
Onto buffers, I absolutely hate my random orbital buffer. Piece of crap. The best thing is to get an 8" variable speed buffer. A smaller pad will obviously move faster, so a larger pad with adjustable speed is the best thing. For vehicles, different pads is best, unless if you know well enough how to buff to keep from having problems. I've worn out a buffing pad at work, without having gotten a single swirl mark. And with a buffer, I've used a compound only once. Buffing compounds are horrible compared to our wax. But, we also do get the hardest to acquire wax, and this stuff works miracles.
Post up some pictures, interesting to see how the truck looks. Most of the lots around here don't do too great buffing.

 

i would take it back too, not to mention howd you notice notice that when you picked it up? and 120 to detail your truck, just do it yourself. takes a good 2 hours to properly do it, but man id spend 2 hours on the weekend before i paid 120



ps if anyone on here wants me to walk you through how to do an easy/ just takes time to do it, detail job, just let me know. no reason to pay that much. just buy the supplies and you can do it yourself every few months. wash, liquid polish, paste wax

black rams: meguiars black kit is the $h!t. comes with a special cleaner and polish specifically for black paint, mannn its good stuff