Toyo Open Country A/T or Nitto Grappler A/t
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I run the Toyo Open Country A/Ts as well in a the stock 275/60/20 size and I'm very impressed. At first they seemed to be a little loud on the highway, but after 1,000 miles or so they appear to be very modest. They do great in the rain and awesome in the snow, I'm very happy I spent the extra money and put a quality tire on my truck.
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I don't think so, AND the ply rating on the Coopers is not near as thick as most true A/T tire.
I'm not knocking the LTZs at all, I think they are a great tire, but a PAVEMENT tire. The heavily siped block pattern does not clear mud well, but does do well above average on wet pavement, ice and shallow hard packed snow.
If off-roading is in your plans, the Nitto's or Toyo's (which are owned by the same company) are a better choice.
Tread pattern is VERY similar, but from my research, the Nitto gets slightly better wet pavement ratings, the Toyo slightly better mud and the Nitto's get slightly longer wear.
Usually, the Nitto's are about 25% cheaper than the Toyo's at dealers who carry both...
I'm not knocking the LTZs at all, I think they are a great tire, but a PAVEMENT tire. The heavily siped block pattern does not clear mud well, but does do well above average on wet pavement, ice and shallow hard packed snow.
If off-roading is in your plans, the Nitto's or Toyo's (which are owned by the same company) are a better choice.
Tread pattern is VERY similar, but from my research, the Nitto gets slightly better wet pavement ratings, the Toyo slightly better mud and the Nitto's get slightly longer wear.
Usually, the Nitto's are about 25% cheaper than the Toyo's at dealers who carry both...
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Much less expensive, doubt that. I just paid $121.50 each for the Terra Grapplers I put on my Grand Cherokee and they are quiet as the soccer mom BFG Long Trails I took off it.
I went with them because I did not need an overly aggressive tread because I have the truck, and a buddy has had a set on his truck for almost 80k miles. If the Zeons last longer, can't be a whole lot longer.
But I'm not debating the tires. Is not a damn thing wrong with the Zeons that I've heard tell, as long as you use them for the purposes they were designed. I know he said wear and ride were his main concerns, but I took his screen name to mean he wasn't exactly a pavement queen either and factored that into my recommendation...
I went with them because I did not need an overly aggressive tread because I have the truck, and a buddy has had a set on his truck for almost 80k miles. If the Zeons last longer, can't be a whole lot longer.
But I'm not debating the tires. Is not a damn thing wrong with the Zeons that I've heard tell, as long as you use them for the purposes they were designed. I know he said wear and ride were his main concerns, but I took his screen name to mean he wasn't exactly a pavement queen either and factored that into my recommendation...
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No, I had to look high and low when I bought my truck. I wanted a Laramie for the leather seats but no way I was taking 20" tires on a 4x4! Hell I'd be running 15s if they'd clear the calipers!!! Lot better off road performance with bigger sidewalls and more room to air down!
But yeah, I got 17s on both the Yeep and the truck. I still ain't figured out why 20" tire cost more than 17's, more material in the 17s...
But yeah, I got 17s on both the Yeep and the truck. I still ain't figured out why 20" tire cost more than 17's, more material in the 17s...
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No, I had to look high and low when I bought my truck. I wanted a Laramie for the leather seats but no way I was taking 20" tires on a 4x4! Hell I'd be running 15s if they'd clear the calipers!!! Lot better off road performance with bigger sidewalls and more room to air down!
But yeah, I got 17s on both the Yeep and the truck. I still ain't figured out why 20" tire cost more than 17's, more material in the 17s...
But yeah, I got 17s on both the Yeep and the truck. I still ain't figured out why 20" tire cost more than 17's, more material in the 17s...
More demand from all the high school kids that want to roll on dubs like the rap music says they should hammer!
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But hammer, I have wondered the same thing....A rubber band costs more than a 15" which looks like a block of rubber
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20's are from the 90s....they tell us "kids" (college counts too I guess) to ride on dub dubs+ now! My grandma has 20's, youre not a thug w/o 28"s in Shreveport haha
But hammer, I have wondered the same thing....A rubber band costs more than a 15" which looks like a block of rubber
But hammer, I have wondered the same thing....A rubber band costs more than a 15" which looks like a block of rubber
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Well it looks like the Nitto's won out. I am getting a set of 305/55/20s installed on Sat. The price out the door was $260.00 each mounted balanced and nitrogen filled. I think this is a pretty good price.