Has anybody here seen the new Ford Commercial! It shows a guy with a pice of a dodge frame,chevy frame and ford frame(F-150). When he puts them next to each other the frame of the ford is at least twice the size of both the Dodge and Chevy! Is that true[]

 

havent seen it, but it fits with the bolt theme they run also.... its called Bull Sh-t and all-in-all, I would rather have a Dodge anyday...

My opinion, my choice.......

 

Haven't seen it. I did work for a Ford dealer at one time before I started school again and I went to the testing debut for the new F150. At one of the propaganda stations there were complete frames with a "breaker bar" on the end. We then placed are weight on the breaker bar to see which one deflected the most. The breaker bar was placed at XX distance from the front. I asked why the Ford was for a SC truck and everything else was for a quad/extended on the other models. I was told that those frames where the ones they got. Yeah right, everyone knows that the longer something is, the easier it is to add a torsion to it. Is it easier to break a 1" piece of 2x4 or a 10" pieceof 2x4 in half. I know it's not the same as rotational torsion, but you get the idea. Anyhow, the Ford deflected a little over 1" under my weight, the Dodge about 2" under my weight, the Chevy was 6" under my weight and the Toyota, well, lets just say it touched the floor. SO, given the same frame size I think the Dodge is stiffer in torsional stength. I commercial is only as good as its creative PR people. Just like thier "bumper commercial", grade 8 hardware is nice, isn't it.

 

Just wait until the HD Mega Cab comes out. Compare that to your Ford



-Matt-

 

Yeah it is True. Its called Quiet Steel. It is really nice but now lets just imagine this. My 02 Ram Quad weighs 4000 lbs. The comparable F 150 weighs almost a 1000 lbs more. I sure as heck dont want to be carrying around that extra load that takes away from towing capacity. It just makes the truck ride quieter and then why the heck did we buy a truck to begin with. My truck didnt even make it off the dealer lot before I had Duals installed. I wanted a truck that towed and had power and wasnt as heavy at a boat anchor. If I wanted a quiet ride I'd go buy a 300C...

 

Thier quiet steel is nothing more than a firewall that has steel/foam/steel. I can do that with Dynamat and save the weight just like BigWoody says. I LOVE my Dodge. Many say the back seats are cramped, but I don't need the extra room from the edge of the rear seat to the back of the front seat because my knees aren't in my chest! I looked at the Fords and the seats are way too low. I didn't look at the Nissan because it was either a Ford or a Dodge. I've had to much bad luck with GM products. It's just more propaganda if you ask me.

 

On the commercial it is twice the size of the dodge!Thats not true.They also make fun of the HEMI in the commercial[:@]

 

spanked 3 fords and two Chebbies sinec I had my truck...all wanted to race this old man...all lost..heheheeeee...love my truck....


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The Ford fram is more massive than the Dodges![8D] They use 2 "C" frame sections in the back welded together, that is gives it strength with weight. All trucks use to use on "C" Channel.

But with that being said Hydroforming of the steel is the strongest way to make the truck stronger, more rigid and lighter weight.

All trucks use some hydroforming, the Chevies started it in the late 90's and still only go the the back of the cab and only on the frame rails. Ford uses hydroforming on the frame rails to the back of the cab and on the front crossmember (engine cradle). Dodge uses Hydroforming from front to rear in 3 section modulus, This means that the frame can be replaced in sections, and all but one cross member (tire rack) is hydroformed. You are not suppose to try to straighten the frame on the hydroformed part because it will not bend easily and wants to hold the new formed shape of the wreck.

This is the strongest, stiffest and most expensive way to build a truck.

No I am not an engineer (my cousin is for Ford) I just peddle vehicles and they happen to be Dodge and Ford. I went to the school that osteodoc08 went to and when I asked how come the Dodge frame is smaller and almost as strong, they told me I ought to go and sell Dodge if I like them that much, and or couse being the smarta$$ that I am I told them that I sell both. Shut the pimp meister right up!

See not all of the car salespeople are total idiots, just me.

Below is a link to help better understand the basics.

WHAT IS HYDROFORMING

What Dodge states about Hydroforming

A hydroformed frame helps increase stiffness and durability resulting in a smooth and quiet car-like ride.

What's hydroforming? It's a revolutionary manufacturing process that uses highly pressurized water, rather than heat, to mould the frame. Structural benefits include:

Greater strength and impact absorption
Reduces the number of welds, adding even more durability
Stronger and stiffer for a more solid feel
Weighs less than stamped frames
Lower NVH (Noise, Vibration, Harshness

 

thats what happens when you merge with one of the best automakers on the world...nowhere to go but up.......until you **** up the styling[:@]