Got my butt kicked by an F150
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From: Albany, NY
not good enough. what happens when your truck shifts from 2nd-3rd? The rpms drop a bit and so does the power. When that ford shifts, the power it there all the time. There is just no comparison between a twin screw style supercharger to that of N/A. It's just totally cheating...lol...and freakin awesome. Nothing like full power between shifts. Def puts your head back.
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sorry to break ppls bubbles here but last time I checked the old lightenings handed the srt10s *** on a platter. check YouTube for those vids. I hate to say it and hated even more to see it but its what happened. oh and the furd raptors a butt f'in ugly. saw an stx one yesterday and even my fiancee laughed her *** off.
SRT....Horsepower (hp @ rpm) 500@5600
Torque (lb-ft @ rpm) 525@4200
Curb weight, mfr. claim (lbs.) 5000
EPA fuel economy (mpg) 15-Sep
Edmunds observed (mpg) 10.4
Performance
0 - 60 (sec.) 5.4
1/4 mile (sec. @ mph) 13.8 @ 104.2
60 - 0 (ft.) 126.2
Lightning....Horsepower (hp @ rpm) 380@4750
Torque (lb-ft @ rpm) 450@3250
Curb weight, mfr. claim (lbs.) 4670
EPA fuel economy (mpg) 16-Dec
Edmunds observed (mpg) 13
Performance
0 - 60 (sec.) 5.8
1/4 mile (sec. @ mph) 14.2 @ 98.5
60 - 0 (ft.) 126.2
And how is this butt fn ugly?
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From: las vegas
im surprised they use 3v in the newer vehicles with all the success of the 4v engines. saleen is getting cheap.
roots set ups are nice. i like the idea of power on demand. but hell a stroker will give most whipple's and kb's a good run for their money. when the termis go turbo then it is time to fight boost with boost. what year was your stang? if it wasn't a mach 1 then i would put my money on the termi. 2v and 3v 4.6s will never hold a candle to the forged from the factory 4v 4.6 in the termi. the 4v also came in the mach 1 but it wasnt boosted factory.
I hate to say it but, the terd would take an SRT ONLY because with the twin screw, it makes it's power almost instantly. With Peak power at like 2500rpms vs the SRT needs to wind up to like 6k before peaking out, the F150 supercharged would walk all over it.
My mustang had a centrifugal s/c'er that put down 473rwhp and 468rwtq. When i went up against a modded '03 Cobra with 471rwhp and 455rwtq he annihalated me because I had to rev up to 6k before i peaked the HP where as he hit peak HP immediately at 2300rpms. So, from 2300rpms until his 6500rpm shift he was at max power. My power at 2500rpms was like 260rwhp??? something low like that.
You just cannot compare a twin screw to a N/A engine, but you CAN compare a centrifugal to a N/A engine because of the above.
My mustang had a centrifugal s/c'er that put down 473rwhp and 468rwtq. When i went up against a modded '03 Cobra with 471rwhp and 455rwtq he annihalated me because I had to rev up to 6k before i peaked the HP where as he hit peak HP immediately at 2300rpms. So, from 2300rpms until his 6500rpm shift he was at max power. My power at 2500rpms was like 260rwhp??? something low like that.
You just cannot compare a twin screw to a N/A engine, but you CAN compare a centrifugal to a N/A engine because of the above.
Last edited by 00z28bubba; Mar 4, 2010 at 08:11 PM.
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im surprised they use 3v in the newer vehicles with all the success that the 4v engines. saleen is getting cheap.
roots set ups are nice. i like the idea of power on demand. but hell a stroker will give most whipple's and kb's a good run for their money. when the termis go turbo then it is time to fight boost with boost. what year was your stang? if it wasn't a mach 1 then i would put my money on the termi. 2v and 3v 4.6s will never hold a candle to the forged from the factory 4v 4.6 in the termi. the 4v also came in the mach 1 but it wasnt boosted factory.
roots set ups are nice. i like the idea of power on demand. but hell a stroker will give most whipple's and kb's a good run for their money. when the termis go turbo then it is time to fight boost with boost. what year was your stang? if it wasn't a mach 1 then i would put my money on the termi. 2v and 3v 4.6s will never hold a candle to the forged from the factory 4v 4.6 in the termi. the 4v also came in the mach 1 but it wasnt boosted factory.
root style blowers they used were Eatons aka "heatons" because that's all they are good at producing. lots of heat. Twin screw hands down for performance, they drastically reduced the robbed power and provide a much cooler intake charge.
Mach 1 and Cobras had identical motors other than the cobra's were forged and were strapped with a heaton. I had a 97gt with a 98 cobra based 32v motor that was fully forged. It was nearly identical to that of an 03/04 cobra with the exception of the heads/intake which only provided minimal power gains. (15hp stock & upwards of 25hp boosted)
Mach's had the older '01 Cobra motor and were glorified by badges and a shaker hood
. They weren't anything special really. I raced a Mach, destroyed it. Wasn't even a contest.As far as the internals in Machs, Automatic Mach's had cast crank along with hyperuetectic pistons and cast rods, manuals had forged crank with same other components...i could go on and on and on...lol
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2v's lacked power. 3v's have noticeable gains and are smoother than 2v's. The 4v's are just not needed with the invent of 3v's it makes production costs more efficient although the "modular" design is genious and parts are pretty interchangeable anyways.
root style blowers they used were Eatons aka "heatons" because that's all they are good at producing. lots of heat. Twin screw hands down for performance, they drastically reduced the robbed power and provide a much cooler intake charge.
Mach 1 and Cobras had identical motors other than the cobra's were forged and were strapped with a heaton. I had a 97gt with a 98 cobra based 32v motor that was fully forged. It was nearly identical to that of an 03/04 cobra with the exception of the heads/intake which only provided minimal power gains. (15hp stock & upwards of 25hp boosted)
Mach's had the older '01 Cobra motor and were glorified by badges and a shaker hood. They weren't anything special really. I raced a Mach, destroyed it. Wasn't even a contest.
As far as the internals in Machs, Automatic Mach's had cast crank along with hyperuetectic pistons and cast rods, manuals had forged crank with same other components...i could go on and on and on...lol
root style blowers they used were Eatons aka "heatons" because that's all they are good at producing. lots of heat. Twin screw hands down for performance, they drastically reduced the robbed power and provide a much cooler intake charge.
Mach 1 and Cobras had identical motors other than the cobra's were forged and were strapped with a heaton. I had a 97gt with a 98 cobra based 32v motor that was fully forged. It was nearly identical to that of an 03/04 cobra with the exception of the heads/intake which only provided minimal power gains. (15hp stock & upwards of 25hp boosted)
Mach's had the older '01 Cobra motor and were glorified by badges and a shaker hood
. They weren't anything special really. I raced a Mach, destroyed it. Wasn't even a contest.As far as the internals in Machs, Automatic Mach's had cast crank along with hyperuetectic pistons and cast rods, manuals had forged crank with same other components...i could go on and on and on...lol
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sorry to break ppls bubbles here but last time I checked the old lightenings handed the srt10s *** on a platter. check YouTube for those vids. I hate to say it and hated even more to see it but its what happened. oh and the furd raptors a butt f'in ugly. saw an stx one yesterday and even my fiancee laughed her *** off.
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I think I might be the only one to say this but a non boosted SRT 10 really did not impress me much with acceleration. I thought it was kind of a turd. Boosted they are pretty fun hard to hold on to but good. If I wanted a go fast truck gotta say old lightning or something with the 4th gen GM small block.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NobZn85F6jY
I'm not a furd lover but the old lightnings are quick. regardless, id still rather have the srt. much better looking truck.
I'm not a furd lover but the old lightnings are quick. regardless, id still rather have the srt. much better looking truck.
Last edited by mbaseball3; Mar 9, 2010 at 06:12 PM.