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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 01:13 PM
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I was doing the plugs and when i removed it, it was missing part of the ceramic. So i believe that its in the cylinder. Now i have rotated the engine with no spark as per a mechanic told me hopping that it would get blown out. I did see some come out but not all.
WHAT SHOULD I DO?

I was told that the piston would just crush it and it would come out the exhaust port but i dont know if i beleve it
 
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 01:43 PM
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holy shlt let me call myt dad i'll get back too ya. serious, he's the best mechcanic I know (retired).ok I'm back edit wise.
My dad says you have three options here 1st is run it and hope, however he had experinced this problem before and the guy ran his motor. He ended up sending a push od right thru his valve cover not a pretty site.
2nd take out the second spark plug and force air into the cyl. head. Making sure your at top deads center at the compression stoke (this is important) However you already dry fired it so you may have already sent some out the exhaust. WEll at any rate at tdc blow air into the cyl, forcing everthing in there out the remaining spark plug hole.
3rd And your gonna love this one, take off the head and clean it out just like old school!! cheer up mechcanics do this on the drag strip in 20 min,s or less.
Thats It hope it helps, And let this be a lesson to all diy ers Do not f^%k up it's not pretty !
 

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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 01:57 PM
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This is a new one for me. You have rotated the engine to hopefully blow pieces out. The only thing that I can think of to give you peace of mind is an inspection using a opitical viewers. They can be use to inspect cylinders. Maybe the parts store has them to rent. Never thought to ask them if they had any. Good luck.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TRL-TP-9350/
 

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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 02:21 PM
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Didn't think of that red , good advise indeed.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Unperfected
I was told that the piston would just crush it and it would come out the exhaust port but i dont know if i beleve it
Sounds possible but this would come under the category of "running it and hope". It would be worse if it were metal down in there. But since they tell you to be careful to not even let dirt get in there, I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with a piece of ceramic. As mentioned, you could find someone with a scope to go in and see if anything is visible. But if it is, how do you get it out? Sounds like you are pretty confident some is still in there and probably more so if some of it came out vs. maybe been missing all along and never fell in to start with. I'd hate it but I think I'd find someone to open it up and make sure it is okay.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 04:32 PM
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Oh maaaaannnnnn! Good luck my friend keep us posted. My prayers are with you.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 05:58 PM
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You need to get your hands on a small diameter borescope. A plumbing shop may have one. Then get a set of chinese fingers, there's three little fingers on the end of a reach tool, and a button on the oposite end that's spring loaded. Put the bore scope in one plug hole to locate the stuff you need to grab, and it will guide the fingers in---kinda like flying a drone remotely. The scope has a light on the end to illuminate what the camera is looking at.-------or pull the head. Inside that ceramic is the electrode rod---not good!


Good Luck!! Keep us posted
 
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 06:07 PM
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theres something about "run it and hope" that i dont like at all. if it were me, i'd be pullin the head
 
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AF_HEMI
theres something about "run it and hope" that i dont like at all. if it were me, i'd be pullin the head
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 06:39 PM
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So my dad is right on all counts.
 
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