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Lunging in Low Speeds, Poor Gas Mileage, Not Revving Fully in Park

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Old May 19, 2010 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by cheapbeater
it could be that retarded EGR valve...
...likes not having a retarded EGR valve.
 
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Old May 20, 2010 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RubberFrog
No problem bro. I figured since you were needlessly revving it up in park that you might not be aware of how retarded it is.
Yeah so I have a son with down syndrome so I appreciate your help but there is seriously no need to keep using that word.
 
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Old May 20, 2010 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by bizfoshiz
I have run some fuel system cleaner through it, had the dealership change out a map sensor, cleaned the throttle body, reprogrammed it back to factory specs (I had a Superchips Mileage Programmer Programming it for better fuel economy) and even the dealership reprogrammed it with their computer.
Ok lets try to diagnose. First off, is there any way you got water into your intake/engine? That's what happened to me. If not, that rules out alot. So is it still stalling at low speeds? Or just getting bad gas mileage now? Did any of the things you or the "stealership" did help any?

--If it's only doing it at low speeds, or at a stop it's prolly not the EGR valve(wouldn't hurt to replace it though). EGR is typically not employed at high loads because it would reduce peak power output. This is because it reduces the intake charge density. EGR is also omitted at idle (low-speed, zero load) because it would cause unstable combustion, resulting in rough idle. The EGR valve also cools the exhaust valves and makes them last far longer (a very important benefit under light cruise conditions)



--It's prolly not the PCV valve (wouldn't hurt to replace it though) because its just a simple ball check valve, oriented so that vapor flows from the cam/valve cover to the vacuum source, usually the intake manifold or tract. It has two failure modes:
  • Stuck open
  • Stuck closed
Stuck open would allow normal flow of crankcase oil vapor to the vacuum source, but would allow intake pressure pulses to flow back into the cam/valve cover. This could allow gasoline into the engine cases. Gasoline has almost no lubricating properties for high-pressure applications such as crank bearings and cam followers.

Stuck closed causes a slight power loss. The PCV valve has one major function and one minor side-benefit: it allows crankcase oil vapor to be burned instead of venting to atmosphere and the vacuum applied to the crankcase reduces crankcase pressure slightly. Pistons moving up-and-down pump crankcase air as wells as intake air, using horsepower to do so. Reducing the crankcase pressure reduces pumping losses.

First off, I would check one spark plug on each cylindar, and see if they're fouled. If so replace them all and see if that fixes it. If not, change your thermostat(in the upper hose right where it connects to the water pump.) Then the coolant temperature sensor. They cost 15-20 bucks. I only say this because more and more people are having the same issues, and after weeks of trouble shooting, its the last thing they replace, and it usually fixes the problem. Our trucks are meant to run most efficiently at a set temperature. If the sensor is bad, the computer will try to compensate for what it thinks the temp is. If the thermostat is bad, your engine could be running hotter than optimum for efficient driving. Try these first man. If they don't fix it, Ill brain storm some more.

Oh and if your having problems, **dont try to tune them away.** Especially at the "stealership". Could mess the truck up even more, and it's cheaper/more fun, just to buy a diablo and do it yourself. You can read/clear error/diagnostic codes that way too. GL man!
 

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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 05:31 PM
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Are you going to sue the entire world for using the words "Advanced" and "Retarded" when setting the timing? Loosen up a little. I'm sure he meant no offense to Handicap children.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 03:30 PM
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Ended up getting a check engine light finally saying the EGR valve needed replacing, took care of the problem thank to all who helped.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by HemiLonestar
...likes not having a retarded EGR valve.
I had one of those before.
 
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