03 Ram 1500 Seems to shift up really fast
Maybe I'm just not used it and it is supposed to do it...
Whenever I am at about 40 mph, it seems to shift up into overdrive or the next higher gear. It almost seems that it is lugging the engine at that point. Usually turning about 1500 rpm or so.
It won't shift back down unless I really punch the throttle. I don't have any warning lights or anything -- all gauges are normal.
Any suggestions -- I could probably post a vid of it later if more clarification. It just seems like it's shifting up faster than it should and not coming back down or using the power band -- thus lugging the engine and doing more harm than good.
Whenever I am at about 40 mph, it seems to shift up into overdrive or the next higher gear. It almost seems that it is lugging the engine at that point. Usually turning about 1500 rpm or so.
It won't shift back down unless I really punch the throttle. I don't have any warning lights or anything -- all gauges are normal.
Any suggestions -- I could probably post a vid of it later if more clarification. It just seems like it's shifting up faster than it should and not coming back down or using the power band -- thus lugging the engine and doing more harm than good.
I would say that is normal under partial or very little throttle. At heavy throttle or WOT it should not do that. Only way to get out of it is like you said, nail the pedal. Or you could take push the tow/haul button or install a floor shifter.
I would like to do the latter option, because after having a manual transmission in my last truck it was nice. I was reading on another post about some kind of pressure deal inside the transmission that went out and it didn't give any notifications. It could be a combo of the 3" pipes beating out my bottom end, too tho.
Dumb question... What is TCC?
TCC = torque converter clutch
OPERATION
The application of each driving or holding component
is controlled by the valve body based upon the
manual lever position, throttle pressure, and governor
pressure. The governor pressure is a variable
pressure input to the valve body and is one of the
signals that a shift is necessary. First through fourth
gear are obtained by selectively applying and releasing
the different clutches and bands. Engine power is
thereby routed to the various planetary gear assemblies
which combine with the overrunning clutch
assemblies to generate the different gear ratios. The
torque converter clutch is hydraulically applied and
is released when fluid is vented from the hydraulic
circuit by the torque converter control (TCC) solenoid
on the valve body. The torque converter clutch is controlled
by the Powertrain Control Module (PCM). The
torque converter clutch engages in fourth gear, and
in third gear under various conditions, such as when
the O/D switch is OFF, when the vehicle is cruising
on a level surface after the vehicle has warmed up.
The torque converter clutch can also be engaged in
the manual second gear position if high transmission
temperatures are sensed by the PCM. The torque
converter clutch will disengage momentarily when an
increase in engine load is sensed by the PCM, such
as when the vehicle begins to go uphill or the throttle
pressure is increased. The torque converter clutch
feature increases fuel economy and reduces the
transmission fluid temperature.
Since the overdrive clutch is applied in fourth gear
only and the direct clutch is applied in all ranges
except fourth gear, the transmission operation for
park, neutral, and first through third gear will be
described first. Once these powerflows are described,
the third to fourth shift sequence will be described.is controlled by the valve body based upon the
manual lever position, throttle pressure, and governor
pressure. The governor pressure is a variable
pressure input to the valve body and is one of the
signals that a shift is necessary. First through fourth
gear are obtained by selectively applying and releasing
the different clutches and bands. Engine power is
thereby routed to the various planetary gear assemblies
which combine with the overrunning clutch
assemblies to generate the different gear ratios. The
torque converter clutch is hydraulically applied and
is released when fluid is vented from the hydraulic
circuit by the torque converter control (TCC) solenoid
on the valve body. The torque converter clutch is controlled
by the Powertrain Control Module (PCM). The
torque converter clutch engages in fourth gear, and
in third gear under various conditions, such as when
the O/D switch is OFF, when the vehicle is cruising
on a level surface after the vehicle has warmed up.
The torque converter clutch can also be engaged in
the manual second gear position if high transmission
temperatures are sensed by the PCM. The torque
converter clutch will disengage momentarily when an
increase in engine load is sensed by the PCM, such
as when the vehicle begins to go uphill or the throttle
pressure is increased. The torque converter clutch
feature increases fuel economy and reduces the
transmission fluid temperature.
Since the overdrive clutch is applied in fourth gear
only and the direct clutch is applied in all ranges
except fourth gear, the transmission operation for
park, neutral, and first through third gear will be
described first. Once these powerflows are described,
Last edited by RedTruck-VA; Oct 14, 2010 at 01:17 AM.
You could also take advantage of the free "disable the Torque Management" mod for the 03 Model (TMR Delete Mod Pin # 10) but not sure if that will change your situation.
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sounds like normal behavior for a 5-45RFE to me. mine was similar to that until i got lower rear end gears. but you could also get a superchips and change shift points and torque management values.
thanks for the info....
My 2008 Ram 1500 does the same thing. I'll be cruising along at around 65 -70 km/h and it will shift up and be at like 1300 RPM. Starts lugging a bit like said.
So I either put it in tow/haul or give it more gas to downshift.
I thought it was normal, but should I be worried?
So I either put it in tow/haul or give it more gas to downshift.
I thought it was normal, but should I be worried?




