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Old May 10, 2012 | 03:36 AM
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Ok...need some help here...Towing the Mustang next week to a racing event, and Germans use a 7-11 pin trailer connection...Mine only has the 4 pin flat pigtail. I already have a 7 pin connector that I was planning on using (with an adapter in case the trailer I rent has the 11 pin) Looking on line I found that 1 is left blinker, 1 is right blinker, 1 is ground, and 1 is stop/running lights.... Is this correct? If so, what are the wire colors so I can re-wire the 7 pin connector correctly? If not, then what is the correct schematic/wire colors?
I am planning on towing about 175 miles round trip, and according to German law I cannot exceed 80 kmh. I have the 5 spd, so I am planning on keeping it in 4th gear most of the time...
 
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Old May 10, 2012 | 08:06 AM
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Running lights are constant. It actually uses the turn signals for brakes. It lights up both turn signals at the same time when you press the pedal.
 
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Old May 10, 2012 | 08:34 AM
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4pin wires..the above is correct. The 7-pin plugs have Auxilary power, Main power, and electric brake wire. That's where you get your extra 3 wires from. You only need the brake wire for electric brakes. The other 2 aren't needed unless you have a battery powered break-away for the brakes.
 
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Old May 10, 2012 | 09:31 AM
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Ok...confused...so what you are saying is that if I have my left turn signal on, and step on the brake, the trailer lights amber and red lights will flash instead of just the amber flashing?
 
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Old May 10, 2012 | 01:12 PM
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Depends on how the trailer is actually wired. The factory 4 way just actuates the relay's. The only to get 4 functions out of 3 power wires is to reuse the signal for something else, aka the brakes.
 
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Old May 10, 2012 | 04:32 PM
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Try this web page. It'll tell you what the common outputs and inputs are over on this side of the pond.
http://www.etrailer.com/faq-wiring.aspx

The turn signal is actually just a blinking brake light. So if you brake, the turn signal over rides that side brake light and blinks.

If European trailers operate differently, then a convertor or relay type device may be required to make it work.
 
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Got it working after a bunch of plug an play. For future reference in case anyone else needs it...
GRN-Right turn signal/Brake Lights
YLW-Left Turn signal
BRN-Running Lights
Black-Ground
 
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Originally Posted by Bigboytoys
Got it working after a bunch of plug an play. For future reference in case anyone else needs it...
GRN-Right turn signal/Brake Lights
YLW-Left Turn signal
BRN-Running Lights
Black-Ground
Well yeah... I thought you knew that or I could have provided that for ya. If you do a search for 4-pin trailer wire diagram tons of pics come up. Ground can be black or white depending on the harness manufacturer.



Here's a diagram for every connection possible http://www.accessconnect.com/trailer_wiring_diagram.htm
 
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Thanks Dirty...ya, that was what I was trying to find out. The reason was that the EU trailers have a separate wire for both left and right turn signals/tail lights/brake lights.
 
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Old May 11, 2012 | 08:45 AM
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The only difference between reality and the schematic Dirty, is the fact that one blinker is using the same wire as the brakes.
 
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