Oil filter question
Well I just said **** it, and did a complete oil change and went back to the mopar 5-20 dino oil and mopar filter. It actually did seem to quiet it down a little bit. Interestingly oil pressure warm while cruising is the same, but oil pressure warm while idling is a little higher than it was with the PP and Bosch.
However the noise is still there for the first 2-3 mins of easy driving... after that it gets quiet. Outside the truck is is noticable, mostly from the wheel wells... almost zero sound from in the engine compartment. You would never be able to hear it in the cab with the radio on. In fact 90% of people would never notice it from in the cab while driving with the radio off... I notice it because I know what I am listening for... from in the cab it is a light fluttering sound (lifters/exhaust leak) from idle to ~1200 RPM... then the noise goes away.
After I got the truck back it was wisper quiet, even on cold start... zero lifter/exhaust noise. From about 400 miles till now, 1900 miles... it has likely gotten gradually noiser, even though I noticed it mostly this past week.
Right now my money is on a exhaust manifold problem. The proper way to do any manifold/header install is to torque them down, and then re-torque them after driving a few hundred miles... obviously the dealer did not/could not do this. This coupled with the fact that these trucks have manifold problems to begin with, I wouldnt doubt the manifolds have loosened and I am getting an exhaust leak. An exhaust leak does sound like noisy valves, and an exhaust leak can also broadcast valvetrain noise as well.
Called the dealer last night and left a message, he never got back to me so I will call again tonight. Get this, the service/parts department of my dealer is open from 7am-Midnight!!!!
However the noise is still there for the first 2-3 mins of easy driving... after that it gets quiet. Outside the truck is is noticable, mostly from the wheel wells... almost zero sound from in the engine compartment. You would never be able to hear it in the cab with the radio on. In fact 90% of people would never notice it from in the cab while driving with the radio off... I notice it because I know what I am listening for... from in the cab it is a light fluttering sound (lifters/exhaust leak) from idle to ~1200 RPM... then the noise goes away.
After I got the truck back it was wisper quiet, even on cold start... zero lifter/exhaust noise. From about 400 miles till now, 1900 miles... it has likely gotten gradually noiser, even though I noticed it mostly this past week.
Right now my money is on a exhaust manifold problem. The proper way to do any manifold/header install is to torque them down, and then re-torque them after driving a few hundred miles... obviously the dealer did not/could not do this. This coupled with the fact that these trucks have manifold problems to begin with, I wouldnt doubt the manifolds have loosened and I am getting an exhaust leak. An exhaust leak does sound like noisy valves, and an exhaust leak can also broadcast valvetrain noise as well.
Called the dealer last night and left a message, he never got back to me so I will call again tonight. Get this, the service/parts department of my dealer is open from 7am-Midnight!!!!
Well I just said **** it, and did a complete oil change and went back to the mopar 5-20 dino oil and mopar filter. It actually did seem to quiet it down a little bit. Interestingly oil pressure warm while cruising is the same, but oil pressure warm while idling is a little higher than it was with the PP and Bosch.
However the noise is still there for the first 2-3 mins of easy driving... after that it gets quiet. Outside the truck is is noticable, mostly from the wheel wells... almost zero sound from in the engine compartment. You would never be able to hear it in the cab with the radio on. In fact 90% of people would never notice it from in the cab while driving with the radio off... I notice it because I know what I am listening for... from in the cab it is a light fluttering sound (lifters/exhaust leak) from idle to ~1200 RPM... then the noise goes away.
After I got the truck back it was wisper quiet, even on cold start... zero lifter/exhaust noise. From about 400 miles till now, 1900 miles... it has likely gotten gradually noiser, even though I noticed it mostly this past week.
Right now my money is on a exhaust manifold problem. The proper way to do any manifold/header install is to torque them down, and then re-torque them after driving a few hundred miles... obviously the dealer did not/could not do this. This coupled with the fact that these trucks have manifold problems to begin with, I wouldnt doubt the manifolds have loosened and I am getting an exhaust leak. An exhaust leak does sound like noisy valves, and an exhaust leak can also broadcast valvetrain noise as well.
Called the dealer last night and left a message, he never got back to me so I will call again tonight. Get this, the service/parts department of my dealer is open from 7am-Midnight!!!!
However the noise is still there for the first 2-3 mins of easy driving... after that it gets quiet. Outside the truck is is noticable, mostly from the wheel wells... almost zero sound from in the engine compartment. You would never be able to hear it in the cab with the radio on. In fact 90% of people would never notice it from in the cab while driving with the radio off... I notice it because I know what I am listening for... from in the cab it is a light fluttering sound (lifters/exhaust leak) from idle to ~1200 RPM... then the noise goes away.
After I got the truck back it was wisper quiet, even on cold start... zero lifter/exhaust noise. From about 400 miles till now, 1900 miles... it has likely gotten gradually noiser, even though I noticed it mostly this past week.
Right now my money is on a exhaust manifold problem. The proper way to do any manifold/header install is to torque them down, and then re-torque them after driving a few hundred miles... obviously the dealer did not/could not do this. This coupled with the fact that these trucks have manifold problems to begin with, I wouldnt doubt the manifolds have loosened and I am getting an exhaust leak. An exhaust leak does sound like noisy valves, and an exhaust leak can also broadcast valvetrain noise as well.
Called the dealer last night and left a message, he never got back to me so I will call again tonight. Get this, the service/parts department of my dealer is open from 7am-Midnight!!!!
Just my 2 cents. Lower oil pressure isn't always a bad thing. Higher oil pressure is a result of tight engine tolerances, or restrictions. I don't know anything about the Bosch filter, but slightly lower oil pressure could just be a sign that your filter and synthetic oil flows better than the Mopar part.
Just my 2 cents. Lower oil pressure isn't always a bad thing. Higher oil pressure is a result of tight engine tolerances, or restrictions. I don't know anything about the Bosch filter, but slightly lower oil pressure could just be a sign that your filter and synthetic oil flows better than the Mopar part.
Just my 2 cents. Lower oil pressure isn't always a bad thing. Higher oil pressure is a result of tight engine tolerances, or restrictions. I don't know anything about the Bosch filter, but slightly lower oil pressure could just be a sign that your filter and synthetic oil flows better than the Mopar part.
Also, I dont know if it is the filter or if it was the oil because I changed them both at the same time.
A side note though, the mopar filter does have a coil spring anti drain back vs the leaf of the bosch
well the only way to change that is to change the oil pump all together... Also keep in mind that the OEM gauge is not exactly 100% accurate... it's more of a guideline type gauge that just lets you know if you are EXTREMELY low or not...
I am suprised when people on hear say that they oil gauge never moves... its either on or off.



