Did I get a good deal??? New Dodge owner
Those are the standard pricing on all th trucks around here, anything around 31-33 is about 10k off the sitcker with all the rebates. They have the discounted prices right on the mirrors. Hard to find anything good though, mostly picked over.
I test drove a Ford as well just for giggles, I knew I was getting a Dodge no matter what. The Ford had really mushy brakes, I blew a red light by 5ft. The sales person had his arms locked out on the dash and his eyes were 3x bigger then normal. The big hog just wouldnt stop ! The motor was really flat as well. The 5.6 in the Titan destroys the Ford by a long margin. The only thing I liked about the Ford was the Capt chairs and the interior in the Lariat, really nice but they wanted $4k more than I got the Dodge with the same options. No thanks !
ORIGINAL: vipersforsale
And as for your claim of BS there stump-breaker, you busted your own ***** on that one, take a look at what you found out for yourself, there are buttloads of rebates and incentives for the trucks right now, its easier to buy a new one than it is for them to sell an old one, and like I said before they just arent selling well at the auctions, so as far as trucks go KBB isnt a good indicator as to what your truck is worth, which IS far less than what is listed by KBB. As long as gas is high, get used to your truck not holding its value.
And as for your claim of BS there stump-breaker, you busted your own ***** on that one, take a look at what you found out for yourself, there are buttloads of rebates and incentives for the trucks right now, its easier to buy a new one than it is for them to sell an old one, and like I said before they just arent selling well at the auctions, so as far as trucks go KBB isnt a good indicator as to what your truck is worth, which IS far less than what is listed by KBB. As long as gas is high, get used to your truck not holding its value.
KBB needs to get their stuff together to reflect the current trend. Their "pricing" causes problems for everyone - consumer and seller. Besides, once things settle down, truck values will creep back up. I am in Texas after all - truck capital of the world.
ORIGINAL: joemamma
Cool, I guess I got a good deal then. I really wanted a Ford and just went to the Dodge guys to get some info for barganing. Then when I saw what I could get for the money I ended up getting the Dodge. Here were the pluses is my book versus the Ford
+more interior room
+more horses
+6.25' bed vs 5.5'
+ about $3500 cheaper than a similar equipped F150
+ 7/70,000 powertrain warranty vs 3/36,000 on the Ford
The only minus I am seeing that Dodges get thirsty.
Viperforsale: My trade-in was a 2001 Mercury Cougar with 80,000 miles on it. They said they would give me $5000 for it but when they checked closer they found the broken sunroof so only gave me $4500 for it. I looked into getting the sunroof fixed but you can only replace the whole assembly and it cost $1500 with the labor, stupid design. Anyway KBB was $4300 and I $4500 for it with the issues it had.
So does everybody always get the question "Does that thing got a HEMI in it?"
Cool, I guess I got a good deal then. I really wanted a Ford and just went to the Dodge guys to get some info for barganing. Then when I saw what I could get for the money I ended up getting the Dodge. Here were the pluses is my book versus the Ford
+more interior room
+more horses
+6.25' bed vs 5.5'
+ about $3500 cheaper than a similar equipped F150
+ 7/70,000 powertrain warranty vs 3/36,000 on the Ford
The only minus I am seeing that Dodges get thirsty.
Viperforsale: My trade-in was a 2001 Mercury Cougar with 80,000 miles on it. They said they would give me $5000 for it but when they checked closer they found the broken sunroof so only gave me $4500 for it. I looked into getting the sunroof fixed but you can only replace the whole assembly and it cost $1500 with the labor, stupid design. Anyway KBB was $4300 and I $4500 for it with the issues it had.
So does everybody always get the question "Does that thing got a HEMI in it?"
I wasnt taking it as an attack on me, no worries there...
Hey I am in the same boat as you, my trucks value has crashed also. But KBB's values can only reflect the times with a certain degree of accuracy considering many factors, plus the 2 hurricanes have not been kind to gas prices. This all happened so quickly that its probly hard for anyone to judge the outcome of such issues with any kind of an accuracy especially when figuring truck values. I see that at the auctions some trucks bring more and some bring less. The diesels have stayed on course as usual but the rest go up and down. This throws off the averages at the auctions some of which is what KBB, Black Book and some others are trying to base the "wholesale" or trade-in value upon.
And you must realize that every dealer is in the biz to make money and some are far more ruthless than others at achieving this goal. If I was on that side of the fence I too would try to snag your truck from you with a low-ball offer, after all they have to start somewhere and they surely arent going to shoot you a fair offer from the beginning. They are making some money on the sale of a new vehicle but sometimes they make up the differecne of the quoted trade-in when they roll it over into the new vehicle price. Plus most dont realize but they also get a little bonus if they can jack you on the interest rate. Even a 2 point difference(say 7% instead of maybe 5%) can gain them another grand or more on the backside of a deal. So everyone should always check their beacon score before walking into any dealer so they know what interest rate they should really get.
Hey I am in the same boat as you, my trucks value has crashed also. But KBB's values can only reflect the times with a certain degree of accuracy considering many factors, plus the 2 hurricanes have not been kind to gas prices. This all happened so quickly that its probly hard for anyone to judge the outcome of such issues with any kind of an accuracy especially when figuring truck values. I see that at the auctions some trucks bring more and some bring less. The diesels have stayed on course as usual but the rest go up and down. This throws off the averages at the auctions some of which is what KBB, Black Book and some others are trying to base the "wholesale" or trade-in value upon.
And you must realize that every dealer is in the biz to make money and some are far more ruthless than others at achieving this goal. If I was on that side of the fence I too would try to snag your truck from you with a low-ball offer, after all they have to start somewhere and they surely arent going to shoot you a fair offer from the beginning. They are making some money on the sale of a new vehicle but sometimes they make up the differecne of the quoted trade-in when they roll it over into the new vehicle price. Plus most dont realize but they also get a little bonus if they can jack you on the interest rate. Even a 2 point difference(say 7% instead of maybe 5%) can gain them another grand or more on the backside of a deal. So everyone should always check their beacon score before walking into any dealer so they know what interest rate they should really get.



