Wanted some feedback on headers
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RE: Wanted some feedback on headers
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woah woah woah there PH.D research scientist and "racer"
Your comparing the Hemi to an LS-1????? come on man...are you kidding? i hope so.
Trust me....as I used to own a Camaro SS before my 04 Cobra.....my HEMI engine or ANY hemi engine is NO LS-1.
and my buddy with a 700rwhp Vette who still owns a camaro SS is scratching his head at this one.
LS-1s are making ALOT MORE POWER!!!! ALOT...... and the engine is nothing alike...peak hp/torque and bottom end power/top end power and the buildup of the cams/heads is ALL different.....unless you think they are alike because they are both 5.7s?????
heck...the LS-1s are good for 310-320rwhp STOCK! whereas a HEMI is good for what.....260-270rwhp maybe? LS-1 also benefits ALOT more from simple breather modifications and of course the legendary LS-1 edit...let alone a head and cam swap.....
my 01 camaro SS was making like 420-430rwhp with just intake,headers,catback,and a cam upgrade.
the hemi would be lucky to see about 310-320rwhp with that.
ok im done. a few of us over here are laughing right now....thanks for the laugh.
woah woah woah there PH.D research scientist and "racer"
Your comparing the Hemi to an LS-1????? come on man...are you kidding? i hope so.
Trust me....as I used to own a Camaro SS before my 04 Cobra.....my HEMI engine or ANY hemi engine is NO LS-1.
and my buddy with a 700rwhp Vette who still owns a camaro SS is scratching his head at this one.
LS-1s are making ALOT MORE POWER!!!! ALOT...... and the engine is nothing alike...peak hp/torque and bottom end power/top end power and the buildup of the cams/heads is ALL different.....unless you think they are alike because they are both 5.7s?????
heck...the LS-1s are good for 310-320rwhp STOCK! whereas a HEMI is good for what.....260-270rwhp maybe? LS-1 also benefits ALOT more from simple breather modifications and of course the legendary LS-1 edit...let alone a head and cam swap.....
my 01 camaro SS was making like 420-430rwhp with just intake,headers,catback,and a cam upgrade.
the hemi would be lucky to see about 310-320rwhp with that.
ok im done. a few of us over here are laughing right now....thanks for the laugh.
Research a little more then you'll have the right to laugh.
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RE: Wanted some feedback on headers
Sheesh, guys, gimmee a break!
I didn't mean to start some kind of war and if I've given some a laugh at my obvious ignorance, all the better, but numbers are numbers. The stock factory rated hp and tq of the 5.7 hemi and the 5.7 LS-1 (yeah, yeah, I know they are different; see my siggy; I own both--and more) are nearly identical--TO START WITH! Hence, I still see no reason why similar basic bolt-on mods AND proper tuning won't get SIMILAR results. Some one do the mods and show us the contradictory data.
Once one starts mucking with the internals all bets are off, of course. Shoot, we've even managed over 1000hp out of an antique 299c.i. V/8, setting world speed records in the process, so obviously I don't know squat. And, for you quarter-milers, our heads and cams (we make from scratch) managed to produce another such 300c.i. antique that has run in the 9's--all 3700#s and 120" wheelbase. Anyone can buy modern parts and perhaps go fast (depending on whom one believes); it takes real idiots--like me--to do their own R&D, fab from scratch, and make it work.
So, in the future I'll try to be more circumspect when I attempt to help answer questions, but I still hope to give the "experts" an occasional laugh where I can.
Everyone needs a goal in life.
All the best.
I didn't mean to start some kind of war and if I've given some a laugh at my obvious ignorance, all the better, but numbers are numbers. The stock factory rated hp and tq of the 5.7 hemi and the 5.7 LS-1 (yeah, yeah, I know they are different; see my siggy; I own both--and more) are nearly identical--TO START WITH! Hence, I still see no reason why similar basic bolt-on mods AND proper tuning won't get SIMILAR results. Some one do the mods and show us the contradictory data.
Once one starts mucking with the internals all bets are off, of course. Shoot, we've even managed over 1000hp out of an antique 299c.i. V/8, setting world speed records in the process, so obviously I don't know squat. And, for you quarter-milers, our heads and cams (we make from scratch) managed to produce another such 300c.i. antique that has run in the 9's--all 3700#s and 120" wheelbase. Anyone can buy modern parts and perhaps go fast (depending on whom one believes); it takes real idiots--like me--to do their own R&D, fab from scratch, and make it work.
So, in the future I'll try to be more circumspect when I attempt to help answer questions, but I still hope to give the "experts" an occasional laugh where I can.
Everyone needs a goal in life.All the best.