Ok, new to the fact, I have an 02 quad cab ram, 4x4, can I crank the torsion bars? If so how?

 

There are a bunch of post on this, I actually put some pics in one I set up. Its really easy. Just do a search.

https://dodgeforum.com/m_300221/mpag.../tm.htm#301024

 

Great, I appreciate the link. I am taking the truck into the dealership on Saturday after hours and installing new tires, I think I will do this at that time, then do the alignment. My brother in law works at the dealership as a lead mechanic so I get to use the facility for my own repairs. Saves money this way. I will try to post pictures also.

 

I dont know if I documented it in the forum post, but I used 4.5 turns on one side and 5 on the other. Maybe it was 4.75. Just make sure you measure before and after to make sure it is level, and do the turning with the weight off the tires.

 

yeah you mentioned it in the post, have you had any problems related to you adjusting the torsion bars?

 

Nope, no issues.

 

You might want to check the height after about a week or so. They tend to settle a little bit after cranking them. I had to adjust mine a little.

 

I called an offroad performance shop today and asked them about cranking the bars. They said cranking them 4.5 to 5 turns is crazy. They only do it 3 turns - which doesn't completely level it, but gets it closer. I asked the guy why they won't go that far, and besides mentioning a crappy ride, he said the shocks will bottom out and changes the angles too drastically.

I dunno, I was thinking about doing it, but after listening to this guy I think I'll wait for the suspension lift.

 

sandiegohemi has the RIGHT idea. Cranking them will screw your truck up. Before you do anything, read what I wrote here: https://dodgeforum.com/m_377306/tm.htm

 

Well, you can do anything you want. Of course. My truck rides as good as the day I bought it. I dont care what the 'performance' guy says about turning them more than 3 times. 3 times wont do anymore than about 3/4 of an inch. Not sure about your truck, but mine was a lot farther off than that.

Im not saying that no one has had a worse ride after turning the bars, I am only saying that I havent.

Plus when I had mine aligned afterwards the I verified with the tech that everything was well within factory specs, IE - I have a 70,000 mile warranty so if the boots or joints wear excessively it will be covered under warranty. Plus Ball joints arent that expensive and CV joints arent either.

I read your post about 'your buddies' chevy. And yes I have friends that have chevys and went both routes, a couple did the 6" suspension lift, some went 3" body and turn the bars. All of them had front end issues. Chevy is a different truck, just because they are both IFS doesnt mean they are the same. Chevy's are notorious for breaking idler(SP?) arms. My friend about died in his 92 1500 Blazer because he was on the expressway doing about 50 when his broke and both front wheels turned outward.

Im not saying that it doesnt cause any excessive wear, but driving alone can cause the same problems.

<Edit> and of course the off road shop is going to tell you not to turn the bars, they want to sell you the suspension lift and the labor to install it. My local shop warns against over turning them.