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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 10:24 AM
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Anyone running headers without their catalytic converter? If so, how are you getting around the downstream O2 sensor? Is your engine light on? Or is there a way to trick the PCM. I have a Neon with a AF/X PCM that ignores the O2, and wondered if there was something similiar for the Ram's. Thanks for any input.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 01:36 AM
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Can't help you with any of your questions but i thought i might let you know that if you do remove the cat and take your car to get inspected, if they notice it, they confiscate your car. It happened to my buddy. I'm sure it varies from state to state, but if you are in Texas, be careful.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 10:17 AM
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Thats why I love Michigan... no emissions inspections here.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 07:01 PM
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I am no tree hugger but what do you really gain by removing the cat? This is a legit question that I hope somebody can answer.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 08:09 PM
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Absolutely nothing.

"Back in the day" catalytic converters were made with pellets and often too small or restrictive... Removing the cat's improved the flow of the exhaust and resulted in improved performance. This day and age, the interior of a catalytic converter is a honeycomb, and while 50% of the interior is restricted, the catalytic converter itself is 200% in size compared to the exhaust pipe... So if you have 2+1/2" exhaust pipe, your catalytic converter will be about 5" in diameter, and even though 50% is restricted, you still have the exact same air flow through the cat as if it were a straight pipe. I have seen vehicles with these new catalytic converters with 100K miles on them, cut them open, they look brand new on the inside. Unless your truck has a serious problem with burning oil or sending un-burnt fuel into the exhaust, and then igniting... Removing the cat's on a new dodge is pointless and expensive.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 01:09 AM
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ORIGINAL: rob[GL]

Absolutely nothing.

"Back in the day" catalytic converters were made with pellets and often too small or restrictive... Removing the cat's improved the flow of the exhaust and resulted in improved performance. This day and age, the interior of a catalytic converter is a honeycomb, and while 50% of the interior is restricted, the catalytic converter itself is 200% in size compared to the exhaust pipe... So if you have 2+1/2" exhaust pipe, your catalytic converter will be about 5" in diameter, and even though 50% is restricted, you still have the exact same air flow through the cat as if it were a straight pipe. I have seen vehicles with these new catalytic converters with 100K miles on them, cut them open, they look brand new on the inside. Unless your truck has a serious problem with burning oil or sending un-burnt fuel into the exhaust, and then igniting... Removing the cat's on a new dodge is pointless and expensive.
YEP! That's what I was thinking too.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 04:58 AM
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If you truly want it gone, get an 02 sim, this will send an intermittant signal to the PCM, thus fooling it that there is a CAT there.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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I'm not looking to remove the cat for power. I'm looking into removing it for easy of removing the y-pipe, and making true duals on my truck.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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I'm back,,Howdy 'yall. I just take 'em off and away I go.....
 
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