To 05_FL_Ram

That looks really good, I wish I had the longer pipes to go into the front right corner like yours. I may just get an additional pipe from a muffler shop and polish it out to have it reach into the corner. I was worried about the water thing too.

Question though, I see that you mounted it up to the upper throttle body airbox. I know that the on my 4.7 the box is close to the same size as your Hemi, but inside there is a big compartment actually the whole inside of the box that the incoming air bounces around before making it's turn/way into the throttle body.

Does your's have that same big compartment?? It looks good with the box on it but if yours has the big compartment it kind of defeats what we're trying to do because the air jumps around instead on flowing smoothly into the engine. Just a thought.

Stay cool, H

 

I haven't been up here in a while, and I figured this was a dead thread. I just ordered the "Full Cold" version yesterday. From the looks of the pictures on ebay, this will take it from the throttle body all the way down to the washer fluid tank. With a little simple metal fabrication, I would expect a "cold air" shroud could be made to limit pulling in hot engine air. I don't know whether I'll go that far with it. I figure that just having a better air flow with the aluminum pipe will make the biggest difference. If someone has the pics of the "Full Cold" version to post, that'd be great! It may be some time before I get the thing and have time to put it in. When I do, I'll dig this post up and try to attach them.

 

For me, the bottom line is...what is going to get me the most bang for the buck? I'd much rather spend $50 for something that will get me 95% of the performance of something costing $300. I would even hazard a guess that the extra 1/2" could possible have a detrimental effect on performance if you don't have a larger exhaust and haven't upgraded to a computer package that would have you using 93 octane with advanced timing settings. You want to have a certain amount of air velocity on your intake air and if you haven't set the rest of the vehicle up for it, you could be harming performance much in the same way that an exhaust that is too large can hurt the low end torque.

Now I'm not saying that I know the larger intake to be detrimental, just that I don't see the justification for the extra $250 for something that looks only marginally more attractive. Plus, the cheap version is aluminum which will cool down faster when you get moving and the outside air starts rushing in.

Don't get me wrong...you have a nice looking product, but it's not worth it to me and a lot of others who are more interested in practicality and price.

 

I agree with Groeder. Steel does not disipate heat very well unlike aluminum or plastic. Besides its under the hood who cares what it looks like unless your building a non driven show truck which is lame any way. Build it to drive it and drive it like you stole it. One day I might gain acces to the parts to build and design these things and if I do there will finally be a worth while cold air/ ram air intake setup. Unfortunately if I could have the design I have in mind built it wouldn't be cheap either because it would be made from carbon fiber for weight and heat disipation.

 

Well, I used to think the same as you about that. However one thing you aren't taking into account is the powdercoating and the thickness of the steel. When combined together they do actually provide some insulating factor.

While that may or may not be true, it also HEATS up faster and HOLDS heat longer. Why do you think a lot of pots and pans are made from aluminum??

My truck is a show truck, but it is also a daily driver. I don't baby my truck any. I dynoed it with just my intake, superchip at 91 octane and a aftermarket muffler (Ravin) and pulled the numbers below my signature. Now I really don't think that is a bad dyno run myself, considering bone stock Hemi's were getting about 250-255. So I gained almost 30 RWHP from what I have done to it. And it runs 15.5 in the quarter mile, which isn't bad for a 5000 lb truck eh? Heck a lot of so-called "performance" cars aren't getting that. Plus I still am getting 16 in town and 20 on the highway!
And just so in case you are wondering, I have 8 1st place, 5 2nd place, and 2 3rd place trophies in my case at home for the truck. Some build them for show. Some build them for go. I built mine for both.

 

Ok, my camera's not as nice as 05_FL_RAM's, but you'll get the idea. As a side note, today, it rained like hell and I took it upon myself to go test out this water issue. I hit every puddle I could find as hard as I could without drawing too much attention. The intake performed flawlessly. In fact, when the element got wet, it kinda produced a "swamp cooler" type effect on the air that would come in afterwards, cooling it that much more. This is the "Full cold" or "Stage III" version (Ignore the black tape, I had to plug the hole temporarily):

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That looks really good, also opens up the engine compartment quite a bit. I was just looking at those today on EBAY and was wondering if I should get one or not. I think you sold me on it.

 

I'd recommend one to anyone. They sound mean as hell and the performance gain is definitely noticeable! Awesome equiptment for the price.

 

Sweet Thats what I have been waiting to here Dirty dodge. How much did that setup cost?

Semo you must spend a lot of time cleaning if you drive regularly and are still winning events. Either way the more I think about it I guess a powdercoated insulation would be better than regular aluminum. While alluminum does disipate heat better that is not an issue here because the heat we are worried about is on the outside of the intake. I still think carbon fiber is best though.

 

Cost me just under $75 shipped.