Dodge questions from a Reformed Ford Guy
ORIGINAL: BgBluRam
European Shift pattern? What are you talking about? Do you have the cummins with the 6spd?
European Shift pattern? What are you talking about? Do you have the cummins with the 6spd?
European trannys like found in VW's, BMW's, Porches have the reverse on the left and down. Not sure where OD is in a European, never had one with OD in it. Anyhow, the Europeans put the even gears up and ods down. Dodge's is labeled L-2-3-4-5-6 Ford's is labeled L-1-2-3-4-5. Where Dodge skip's the 1, their evens are still down and odds up, but in actual sequence it's opposite.
Back in the 80's I recogn all pickups (Dodge, Chevy, Ford) had Borg Warner trannys in them and the shift patterns were the same. Somewhere along the way, Dodge and Ford went to New Process ( I believe 1999 for Ford when they started offering the 6 speed) and Chevy went to Allison. Chevy and Ford still have the traditional American pattern. If Dodge's new tranny is still a New Process ( I don't think it is) it's gears are upside down from the others. I was thinking a couple years ago when I bought the Ford, Dodge had the same tranny as Ford with the same patter, I might be wrong on that.
One wierd thing I noticed shopping this time is Chevy has taken the synchronizers out of their manuals. I test drove one and gave up hitting a gear after the 3rd try and asked the salesman. He said that Chevy had so much trouble with synchronizers they just took them out all together which means clutch on each shift. Pretty aggrivating if you ask me, but I don't guess they did.
They are close together on the Dodge. I really have to watch it gearing down in a turn. Going from 5th to 4th is tough.
Skipper
I know this is off subject but bgblueram tell your dad dont trade that 7.3l off just replace it with a new 7.3l. I work for the evil Ford empire as a parts man in a diesel shop all we work on is f250's to f550's and that 6.0L is a piece of crap, but I love it because it pays my bills for me thanks Ford.
What's wrong with the 6.0 Ford? I know Ford had to go back to the drawing board a few times with the 7.3 and Ford has a new D. engine to replace the 6.0, Is Ford still with Navstar ( International ) and is thier any truth to urban myth that Ford owned cummins?
I am more of a Ford guy, but I just traded in my Ford Ranger for a 2006 1500 Mega Cab a three weeks ago. It's a different world. :-) As a tall guy, I found the the Ranger extended cab fit OK but that the F150-250 were not proportioned well for me.
I have been doing a lot of reading on bed liners and nerf bars. (The nerf bars are for my daughters.) Dodge has some nice liners, so I put in an order last night for an under the rails liners with the HEMI logo. The nerf bars are a different story. There are so many to styles and brands choose from that I am still looking.
Most web sites refer to the parts as 2002-2006 simply because they have not updated their web sites yet not because their products do not fit the 2007s. As with any purchase, call before ordering to confirm fitment.
I have been doing a lot of reading on bed liners and nerf bars. (The nerf bars are for my daughters.) Dodge has some nice liners, so I put in an order last night for an under the rails liners with the HEMI logo. The nerf bars are a different story. There are so many to styles and brands choose from that I am still looking.
Most web sites refer to the parts as 2002-2006 simply because they have not updated their web sites yet not because their products do not fit the 2007s. As with any purchase, call before ordering to confirm fitment.
The 6.0L engine is a good engine if grandma drives it but it has headgasket trouble especially with the 03-04 model years. The 06's are ok but still have their share of problems. Right now we are battling oil cooler and egr cooler problems the most as well as injectors going bad, I think it has to do with the poor fuel that is being produced right now. Yes Ford is still with Navistar on the engines, as far as Cummins is concerned I dont know about all that, but I do know that Sterling trucks and the F-650-750's are the same trucks with different badging on them and Sterling is involved with Daimler Chrysler somehow. As far as the new engine, Ford and Navistar basically went back to the drawing board right after the 6.0L came out to get its replacement out fast, it will be a 6.4L twin-turbo setup but that is all I know about it
I have no idea what Ford was thinking with the 6.0. There are several problems that are seemingly common to every 6.0.
First is the EGR system that inevitably leads to turbo problems. Pumping that exhaust back into the air intake without a particulate filter turned out to be a boneheaded idea. The soot and carbon eventually choak the whole dang engine up. When it happens, Ford is so broke and cheap, they refuse to pay for fixing it right. They'll keep your truck anywhere from a week to a month and manage only to clean a faulty part as opposed to replace it. They have no comprehension of downtime on a work truck.
The 6.0 is a highway engine, from what I can tell so far, more so than the Cummins. 6.0's are built to run in excess of 2200 rpms, below that, they aren't worth 2 cents. 6.0's have 0 lower end torque. If you can get it rolling, you can probably pull it at 90 mph if you want to. On the other hand, getting it rolling can be a challenge.
Some Well meaning individual who didn't know up from down designed the electric servo fuel pedal for the 6.0. It has a heck of a delay in it. Mashing the fuel pedal down on a 6.0 doesn't necessarily mean Go. It only means Go when the computer decides it means go. Too bad the computer can't see the 80,000 pound tractor trailer coming off the hill at you and decide to get the heck out of the way. The sad thing is this delay is programmed on trucks with manual transmissions. Immagine trying to let the clutch out on a truck that you can stomp the pedal to the floor and the engine won't rev until it's ready.
There are some extreme servicability issues on a 6.0. For one thing, the engine is underneath the cowl not the hood. You can't get to very much on it without pulling the cab off the frame. Little things like fuel filters are mounted in places where you can't change them without making a mess. There's no water drain that's practical. Yes, there is one, but it requres getting under the truck, a 6 mm allen wrench and a deciser to pour fuel on yourself.
One thing that happened to the early 6.0 buyers a paticular recall reflash. When I bought my truck it had way more power than my 95 model with a 7.3, then they recalled the trucks and reflashed the computers and evidently took about 80 hp out of it and dropped the torque severely. From that day on, my truck was nothing but junk. The guys that didn't have trouble with them never had the recall done.
Skipper
First is the EGR system that inevitably leads to turbo problems. Pumping that exhaust back into the air intake without a particulate filter turned out to be a boneheaded idea. The soot and carbon eventually choak the whole dang engine up. When it happens, Ford is so broke and cheap, they refuse to pay for fixing it right. They'll keep your truck anywhere from a week to a month and manage only to clean a faulty part as opposed to replace it. They have no comprehension of downtime on a work truck.
The 6.0 is a highway engine, from what I can tell so far, more so than the Cummins. 6.0's are built to run in excess of 2200 rpms, below that, they aren't worth 2 cents. 6.0's have 0 lower end torque. If you can get it rolling, you can probably pull it at 90 mph if you want to. On the other hand, getting it rolling can be a challenge.
Some Well meaning individual who didn't know up from down designed the electric servo fuel pedal for the 6.0. It has a heck of a delay in it. Mashing the fuel pedal down on a 6.0 doesn't necessarily mean Go. It only means Go when the computer decides it means go. Too bad the computer can't see the 80,000 pound tractor trailer coming off the hill at you and decide to get the heck out of the way. The sad thing is this delay is programmed on trucks with manual transmissions. Immagine trying to let the clutch out on a truck that you can stomp the pedal to the floor and the engine won't rev until it's ready.
There are some extreme servicability issues on a 6.0. For one thing, the engine is underneath the cowl not the hood. You can't get to very much on it without pulling the cab off the frame. Little things like fuel filters are mounted in places where you can't change them without making a mess. There's no water drain that's practical. Yes, there is one, but it requres getting under the truck, a 6 mm allen wrench and a deciser to pour fuel on yourself.
One thing that happened to the early 6.0 buyers a paticular recall reflash. When I bought my truck it had way more power than my 95 model with a 7.3, then they recalled the trucks and reflashed the computers and evidently took about 80 hp out of it and dropped the torque severely. From that day on, my truck was nothing but junk. The guys that didn't have trouble with them never had the recall done.
Skipper



