Hey guys dont know if of you have Mickey Thompson's MTZ's but they are amazing mud tires. Just got them today and of course had to try them out went out to an ape research place here where i have buddy who works security for we went back on there trails that they take a 4-wheeler on and we just had about 4 inches of snow here and its all gone so it was slick and deep holes full of water i never had to put my truck in 4-wheel drive so i am sayin anyone lookin for a good mud tire there you go