Question for a Chrysler Rep.
#11
06-04-2014, 10:14 AM
Most truck makers have gone this route because it's more preferred by 99% drivers.
Even the Tundra doesn't have a Manual transmission so don't bash Dodge for keeping up with the competition and making reasonable executive decisions.
Go buy Yota already if you really want a manual transmission that doesn't offer up anything other than manual labor and slow shifts.
Or just go play with your maytag that gets you more enjoyment.
Toyota Tacoma:
4cyl with a pathetic 159HP gets 21mpg Hwy w/stick
V6 Toyota w/236HP still 21mpg HWY w/stick
Toyota Tundra:
V6 auto 20mpg Hwy
Ram:
V6 has 305HP and gets 25mpg HWY with an Auto
Most people don't have a 2nd car to drive for various reasons. Most who own a truck drive it everyday. Their practical truck use is only done maybe 10% of the time they actually drive so your fighting with the manual transmission and what not for the majority of the time. That's not a fair trade off to me.
Also, with the new capability of tuners these days, I have full control over my auto transmission. I control when it upshifts and downshifts while retaining it's fully automatic capabilities. Automatics have dominated the market place and will continue to do so.
Last edited by dirtydog; 06-04-2014 at 10:23 AM.
#12
06-04-2014, 02:42 PM
#13
06-05-2014, 01:55 AM
It's not a simple add in as the computers and everything related need to be re-programmed to account for manual control. Look at all the money they saved not paying a separate engineering team (programmers and debuggers) which result in competitive pricing and a dedicated effort focussing on the automatic only driveline.
The programming cannot simply be copied off the CTD models, they are a completely different beast, same with the manual car models, so many differences to take into consideration, sensors, timing, features etc. it's a lot of work.
The programming cannot simply be copied off the CTD models, they are a completely different beast, same with the manual car models, so many differences to take into consideration, sensors, timing, features etc. it's a lot of work.
#14
06-05-2014, 07:58 AM
It's not a simple add in as the computers and everything related need to be re-programmed to account for manual control. Look at all the money they saved not paying a separate engineering team (programmers and debuggers) which result in competitive pricing and a dedicated effort focussing on the automatic only driveline.
The programming cannot simply be copied off the CTD models, they are a completely different beast, same with the manual car models, so many differences to take into consideration, sensors, timing, features etc. it's a lot of work.
The programming cannot simply be copied off the CTD models, they are a completely different beast, same with the manual car models, so many differences to take into consideration, sensors, timing, features etc. it's a lot of work.
And not worth it for the couple hundred a year that they might sell.
#15
08-05-2014, 05:40 PM
I know this is just over a month old, but if a person wants a manual transmission I don't think it should bring any shame to them. There are still a few folks who prefer a manual, if not for the increased sensation of control, to reduce complexity.
My first eleven cars were manual and I can still drive one as well as anyone. But frankly, despite the "pansy dial," as my young son refers to the shift control on my new 8-speed automatic, I have come to appreciate the extreme smoothness, efficiency, and quietness of the 8HP70.
Regards,
Dusty
2014 Ram Big Horn 1500 Quad Cab 2WD, 5.7 Hemi, 8HP70, 3.92 LSD, factory dual exhaust, 20” wheels. Now at: 005200 miles.
My first eleven cars were manual and I can still drive one as well as anyone. But frankly, despite the "pansy dial," as my young son refers to the shift control on my new 8-speed automatic, I have come to appreciate the extreme smoothness, efficiency, and quietness of the 8HP70.
Regards,
Dusty
2014 Ram Big Horn 1500 Quad Cab 2WD, 5.7 Hemi, 8HP70, 3.92 LSD, factory dual exhaust, 20” wheels. Now at: 005200 miles.