Ford can NEVER win. I can't count how many F-150's I have waxed with my Hemi Ram and the 09 F-150 will be no exception. Light to light, top end, you name it and the 390HP Hemi Ram wins - period. The Hemi Ram will beat the 5.4L every time and there is absolutely NOTHING the F-150 driver can do about it except endure the inexorable view of the Hemi pulling away. I could never drive a full size truck with only a 310HP V8, what’s up with that? I can't think of anything more boring or *embarrassing*. The Hemi Ram is a fun truck to drive while the F-150 can't get out of its own way trying to get on a freeway. Chevy has the 400HP 6.2L, Toyota has the 381HP 5.7L but the 5.4L remains a joke. Go pedal your inarticulate BS in the Ford Forums.

 

I'm a ford fan and also a dodge fan. The 5.4 Triton may be weak as far as horsepower but it still hits its peak torque lower then the hemi. The 6.2 Boss is coming out soon and then the hemi is gonna be in some trouble.

 

THe 6.2 boss has been in the rumor mill since I owned my 04 F-150 5.43v the 5.43v dose hit peak torque at a lower RPM than the hemi, thats partly why the 5.4 are harder on flue than the hemi's.

The Variable valve timming in the 5.43v also helps with the low end torque, simply put, Ford builds a heavy pig of truck that is built for towing, the 5.4 3v has two timming chains that did not hold up in my Ford, I had cam pahser issues from the get go.

the hemi is a better old school engine in compariosn to the triton engines.

 

Yes the 5.4L hits max torque at lower RPM's and in a truck built strictly for towing that’s a good thing. *IF* the 6.2L ever makes it to market I agree it will be a welcome improvement for Fords HP reputation. That being said, there are already engines bigger and with more HP the 5.7L Hemi and it shows no signs of "being in trouble". If Ford needs to throw a 6.2 at a 5.7 to beat it that’s OK, it’s a compliment in my book. I guess the 6.2L will be a real disappointment to all the Ford owners who claim (conveniently)that 0 to 60 times in a truck aren't important................or will they suddenly change that tune

 

Ford and Chevy won 1st and 2nd because they do more advertising with that company. That was not a fair evaluation of the Dodge. That is my ipinion and I will stick with it.

 

since weve mentioned chevys propaganda tactics, Im still wondering why we have a chevy ad 80% of the time when I enter this forum.

 

chevy still uses the crappy a-frames in pickups right? That would be the reason right there to run away from them lol. I gotta say after seeing a 09 f-150 and a 09 ram they defiantly should be 1 and 2. No way can a silverado match either.

 

When I was ready to get rid of my 01 2500 Cummins, I drove a 08 Ford F150 4x4 Lariat. I swear my Cummins rode smoother than that thing.

On another note. My friend just came home with an 09 1500 Laramie w 3.55 gears. The increase in power isn't enough to keep up to my 08 with 3.92s. LOL

 

Power schmower - for me it's reliability. Reality is all of the trucks have enough power and speed for this ole geezer. I do need towing power, but hey, me old '93 Dakota 3.9L V6 tows my trailer fine, so a 5.7, 5.4, 5.3 (Dodge, Ford, Chevy) will pull it fine. It's breaking down I can't abide (i.e., live with, endure, tolerate).

If Dodge fixed the ball joint, differential, transmission, etc., problems I think it might be the best. Ford/Chevy seems to have even more problems than the Dodges. If Dodge made them like this Dakota I have - what a truck! The thing just keeps on going, problem free. I'm always hauling all kinds of junk in it, highway, rough roads, woods, etc., boat ramps. For me, Dodge wins...

 

back to the 6.2 v8 for ford it may have enough power *when* it gets build its a bigger engine then the dodge just think of the gas it will take so it will lose that contest as well to the rest if the motor can hold up lol and lets not forget there may be a bigger hemi coming out to better compete in the heavy duty and that will just pass the 6.2 ford motor away making them last again