The car makers are in cahoots with big oil, man. That's why they don't use super advanced technology like this. The government is owned by big oil too, man, so this guy will never get a patent. Heck, I'd be surprised if he's still alive in a few weeks. Big Oil, automakers, and the government will conspire to make this guy disappear, man, just like they did everyone else who wanted to change the status quo.

 

soo.. back to the question.. if you kept your truck for 5 years and save $400 a year in gas... how much is that worth to you?

I own a business... and if i had 10 trucks and could save $400 a year in gas for 5 years based on a one time purchase of $3500 ($350 x 10 trucks)... i would jump on it.

that would save me over $23,000 in gas in just 5 years

besides the calcualtions were base donly on $2.25 and $3.00 a gallon gas... if gas hit $4-$5 again the saving would be a lot more

$4 a gallon x 16 mpg x 100,000 miles = $25,000 / 5 years equals $5000 a year
$4 a gallon x 18 mpg x 100,000 miles = $22,222 / 5 years equals $4400 a year - saves $600 a year x 5 years $3000
$5 a gallon x 16 mpg x 100,000 miles = $31,250 / 5 years equals $6250 a year
$5 a gallon x 18 mpg x 100,000 miles = $27,777 / 5 years equals $5500 a year - saves $750 a year x 5 years $3700

so if i could buy something that could save me $3700 in fuel cost for each truck... say i own 20 trucks... that saves me $74,000 in fuel cost over 5 years... yeah.. thats a nice invesment for $5000 or so

 

this makes no sense....

1. if chevy could make a truck that is capable of being a truck and getting 30 mpg.. they would own the market and rule the truck world. since they cant they are about to go backrupt.s o whoever they are in cahoots with... they are not helping them

2. if the low mpg market goes bye bye then the oil companies lose money cause everyone is using less gas.... so it would be oil companies best interest if everyone was driving a hummer

 

2 mpg is important...but what's more important is climbing in my Ram and it starts right up; everything working; comfort plus a lot of room; 4x4; power; did I mention it starting up when I am ready to rumble!!!

I will sacrifice mpg for all the above...thats why I got the HEMI Crew Cab 4x4!

Of course, an extra 2 mpgs would be a nice addition!

 

Hope you were being sarcastic about another myth? So all car manufacturers throughout the world are in with big oil and big oil own all government's? Hope this invention works out and will be low costs. However there have been many "inventions", like magnets, water hydrolysis, air flow modifications that all said they had "scientific" proof that the item worked. They all have been debunked so far. I'll take a wait and see approach on this one.

 

It's probably a brown's gas generator or hydrogen bubbled from water.

 

Ok, say you put this on a truck that gets 15 mpg and it bumps it up to 17 mpg and it costs $350. It's going to take 22,500 miles before it pays for itself. That's not such a great investment in my book. In fact, I think too many people focus on small gains in MPG, when in the long run, it's really not that much money that you're losing. That's my opinion at least.

Check out this calculator I made... If anyone wants a copy, PM me your email address and I'll send it to you.

 

I am curious what the technology is first. If it doesn't affect performance at all, I might think about it for my truck, but again, 2mpg isn't a big deal to me. I currently put on 3k a year, and in 2 years, that'll drop in half again. Generally don't remember the last time I got gas...

Now my company trucks, at 30k each a year, I'd put it on regardless immediately. Any competitive edge in biz is a good thing, and I could see a payback in a short amount of time.

To the crackpot rant about big oil/biz...blah. It shows you more about how little innovation has been really made in the world of autos regarding mileage. When my 69 F100 4x4 with a 390 got 12mpg city, and my Ram 3 decades newer wasn't significantly better, come on.

Does have 4 cupholders though....guess it's a wash.

 

I dunno, I would say an EPA estimate 13/18 mpg with people regularly getting better than that on a 5500lb truck making 390HP is a significant mileage improvement over your '69 F100 making probly little more than 210HP. Just imagine if the V6 or 4.7L had all of the tech our HEMI's do their gas mileage would be through the roof, but they would cost the same as or close to the HEMI so its not economically feasible. In all i think the auto manufactures have done fairly well to try and meet the unrealist american demand of enormous vehicles that make lots of power and still get good mpg.

 

lol..seriously? Perhaps you missed the fact that I have an 01, which sure as hell isn't anywhere close to 390 HP. Also don't care enough to list the mods to my old truck, because I've already stated, I don't care about mileage on my truck. It was bought to make runs to Home Depot for remodeling supplies.

Just a comment that I'm surprised at how little has been done to improve mileage over 30 years. If the answer is you can't push a 3 ton vehicle without sucking gas, so be it. Just think we could do better.

I might be more negative then most, but I work in engineering, and am constantly amazed at the idiocy of engineers. While I'm not in the automotive industry, I have been involved in enough industries to understand this is not uncommon.