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How many cubic inches?

Old Jun 3, 2009 | 08:08 PM
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Anyone know how many cubic inches the 09 Ram Hemi engine is?
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 08:14 PM
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345 cid
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by oldjeep
345 cid
Not according to the service manual.

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The 5.7L engine (348 CID) eight-cylinder engine is a 90° V-Type lightweight, deep skirt cast iron block, aluminum heads, single cam, overhead valve engine with hydraulic roller tappets. The heads incorporate splayed valves with a hemispherical style combustion chamber and dual spark plugs. The cylinders are numbered from front to rear; 1, 3, 5, 7 on the left bank and 2, 4, 6, 8 on the right bank. The firing order is 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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Different Dodge listings mentioned 345, 348, 353, and 354 cubic inches as the engine size; possibly different people at Chrysler used different formulas to get at the cubic inches. Gaymon Wright's window sticker lists the Hemi as being 348 cid! Jack pointed out that the bore and stroke times pi times the number of cylinders = 353 - perhaps someone at Chrysler incorrectly used that formula. The 354 was probably a simple typo.
Derek wrote "the correct formula is pi x (bore/2) squared x stroke. This is because bore is a circle and area of a circle is pi x r squared! Try it and you will find 3.92/2 = 1.96; 1.962 (3.8416) x pi= 12.0687 x 3.58 stroke =43.20 x 8 cylinders = 345.6." (Mark Strode noted that if you use millimeters to avoid rounding error, you get 345.06).


I'm sticking with 345
 
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Originally Posted by oldjeep
Different Dodge listings mentioned 345, 348, 353, and 354 cubic inches as the engine size; possibly different people at Chrysler used different formulas to get at the cubic inches. Gaymon Wright's window sticker lists the Hemi as being 348 cid! Jack pointed out that the bore and stroke times pi times the number of cylinders = 353 - perhaps someone at Chrysler incorrectly used that formula. The 354 was probably a simple typo.
Derek wrote "the correct formula is pi x (bore/2) squared x stroke. This is because bore is a circle and area of a circle is pi x r squared! Try it and you will find 3.92/2 = 1.96; 1.962 (3.8416) x pi= 12.0687 x 3.58 stroke =43.20 x 8 cylinders = 345.6." (Mark Strode noted that if you use millimeters to avoid rounding error, you get 345.06).


I'm sticking with 345
Go for it. I will stick with the service manual.

I know that is from Allpar, but who is Derek??
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by sarguy01
Go for it. I will stick with the service manual.

I know that is from Allpar, but who is Derek??
Apparently someone who knows how to do math (I checked it and he's right)
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by oldjeep
Apparently someone who knows how to do math (I checked it and he's right)
I am thinking that the bore and stroke numbers may be rounded. If they are, the cubic inch total may be different.

Why would the Dodge engineers get the numbers wrong??
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sarguy01
I am thinking that the bore and stroke numbers may be rounded. If they are, the cubic inch total may be different.

Why would the Dodge engineers get the numbers wrong??
Why do you think an engineer wrote a service manual?

Besides, Dodge used to advertise it specifically as a 345 when they came out with the Hemi claiming 1HP per cubic inch (with a 345 HP motor).
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 09:14 PM
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that was last years motor


this 348 cid and 390 hp yes indeed !
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by CJDTAUTOTECH
that was last years motor


this 348 cid and 390 hp yes indeed !
So what's the bore and stroke on the 09? The crate motors I'm finding are all calculating out at 345.
 
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