2009 Warranty Question
Does anyone have a link for the do's and dont's when it comes to the warranty as far as engine upgrades. How crazy can we get with cams, springs, intake, headers, etc with out voiding the sweet lifetime power train warranty on the 2009. I spoke to someone at my local dealership but I was looking for something officaial from dodge, so I have some legit backing if I upgrade engine parts and have an issue down the road...
headers and intake would be fine but I would never get into the motor if I was trying to keep the warranty. Exhaust, intake, and a programmer would be as far as I would be willing to go.
Any modification can void your warranty depending on the place that is doing your warranty work BUT it only voids any repairs that are directly related to the modification. It will not void your entire warranty. Again only that claim will be denied... I am a former Sales and F&I manager for Chrysler
Add a performance program and break something in the drive train and its found out it has or had a performance download and its your dime.You play, you pay.Use common sense and put yourself in the manufactures shoes.You mod it.You break it it don't expect THEM to warranty it.
That is what I was gonna say, get the dealer to install. But I think there is some wiggle room, likeif you install it after buying it from them, and the part fails, but you have your installation checked out and they buy off on it then I was told they will warranty the part and not any labour to replace it. So then tell me its the part, I will change it after buying from them again have it checked and save a few dollars. They make and hour or so plus markup on part . I like doing stuff myself because I find that they do so many and seem to be careless . For instance you need to change out something behind your dash and they have to take the dash apart..you always get some scratches or you can tell where they used a screw driver instead of the proper nylon removal stick that you can buy anywhere and if you are gonna do any interior work you must have. When I do it myself I don't have to argue about the scratch on the dash because I know i did it. I hate having to tell them there was no scratch before, they always argue....the 2 times it happened to me, once when they were searching for water leak on my 2000 Neon and then once on my 98 Dakota but I can't remember what they did but it came out with a scratch and it was a lease vehicle, I complained they did not fix it but the complaint went into the system and when I turned it in early as per their request they said I have to fix a scratch, I said no it was done by someone here, year later just starting to rust. The looked it up, was nice the service tech added to the comments section that he thought another customer did it while getting in his car with a bunch of parts in his hands. Now why didn't he tell me that.? So they took it, they touched it up with a brush LOL.
The last time I checked, there is not a cam on the market for the truck. We have that camshaft phaser, though I think it bolts to the same style cam that the older Hemi had. But still, a new cam may not work so well with the phaser.
As far as the warranty, you will hear opinions of what is safe and what is not. Different people's stories, different dealers they dealt with, different opinions. If you want to be 100%, do not mod anything.
As far as the warranty, you will hear opinions of what is safe and what is not. Different people's stories, different dealers they dealt with, different opinions. If you want to be 100%, do not mod anything.
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You mess with it you bought the engine. It wont be warranty , They will not warrenty anything that has been modified...... end of story anyone tell you anything other then that is wrong.
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Any modification can void your warranty depending on the place that is doing your warranty work BUT it only voids any repairs that are directly related to the modification. It will not void your entire warranty. Again only that claim will be denied... I am a former Sales and F&I manager for Chrysler
There is no way a rep for chrysler is going to pay for a engine that a cust or a dealership has modified end of story.Esp on a lifetime warr no way!
Here are the facts (and I think I would know being in the business):
This is Federal Law, so it's not open for opinions.
The warranty claim for a failure of a covered part can only be denied due to a modification if the warrantor can prove the modification caused or directly contributed to the failure of the covered part. Furthermore this claim can only be denied for this one claim, so subsequent failures (even of the same part) will again require the warrantor to review and provide cause for the claim being denied. They can not void the entire warranty because of a failure of a part caused by a modification.
What this means is that a supercharger installation could void the warranty on many drivetrain items since it does stress the driveline much more than stock. It could not void the warranty on certain items though like a oil pump failure or some sensor in the transmission etc. that would normally be covered. The weight to prove the relation of the failure to the modification does fall on the warrantor (manufacturer), not the consumer. I think there are a number of items that are gray areas, so exhausts, intakes, etc. might be OK, but programmers that remove built in safety nets like Torque management could be problems if you had a transmission problem. You just have to weigh your risks when doing a modification. I personally think anything Mopar makes should be covered, or an aftermarket version of would likely alo be covered if similar. I also think having a dealer install said modifications might give you a little goodwill in a situation where there was some gray area, but ultimately, the fact that you did or did not have a dealer install an item should be irrelevant if it was installed properly.
This is Federal Law, so it's not open for opinions.
The warranty claim for a failure of a covered part can only be denied due to a modification if the warrantor can prove the modification caused or directly contributed to the failure of the covered part. Furthermore this claim can only be denied for this one claim, so subsequent failures (even of the same part) will again require the warrantor to review and provide cause for the claim being denied. They can not void the entire warranty because of a failure of a part caused by a modification.
What this means is that a supercharger installation could void the warranty on many drivetrain items since it does stress the driveline much more than stock. It could not void the warranty on certain items though like a oil pump failure or some sensor in the transmission etc. that would normally be covered. The weight to prove the relation of the failure to the modification does fall on the warrantor (manufacturer), not the consumer. I think there are a number of items that are gray areas, so exhausts, intakes, etc. might be OK, but programmers that remove built in safety nets like Torque management could be problems if you had a transmission problem. You just have to weigh your risks when doing a modification. I personally think anything Mopar makes should be covered, or an aftermarket version of would likely alo be covered if similar. I also think having a dealer install said modifications might give you a little goodwill in a situation where there was some gray area, but ultimately, the fact that you did or did not have a dealer install an item should be irrelevant if it was installed properly.



