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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 08:15 AM
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i just got a 4800 pound trailer with a weight dist hitch and the truck sits perfect and has no power or pulling issues. i think it all has to do with correct set up. per the rv store the set up makes a difference in gas mileage too.

i will take a picture once it is hooked up again but time and time again i read complaints and no matter what the forum is based on whether it is trucks or guns, for instance, my gun keeps jamming.......funny if you clean it and know how to use it the work fine....this truck tows fine but as with anything you need the right equipment and set up.

there are people on here towing much heavier weight without and issue but again the set up is correct.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 09:42 AM
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I have a 2010 Crew cab with the HEMI and I tow a 24 ft tandem axel trailer with four ATVs with absolulty no vibration, in fact it is truly hard to know the trailer is behind you. Getting about 10-12 mpg and tows at 75 like a dream, plenty of reserve power.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by builderrdu
I have a problem with the new coil springs in the back. My 7x14 trailer dropped the rear right down, made my wonder if I bought the right truck too. I had 08 ram cummins, let it go with injector problems and cost to maintain. I hate that I got rid of it. This thing goes in and out of OD like going thru gas. I am hoping someone comes out with rear air bags or I got to let it go. Hopefully it will get better??
There are airbags available, but how much tounge weight are you running? I've pulled a 16ft car trailer with a 4000lb jeep on it with no squat or vibrations.

If you're towing you shouldn't be in overdrive anyways.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by oldjeep
There are airbags available, but how much tounge weight are you running? I've pulled a 16ft car trailer with a 4000lb jeep on it with no squat or vibrations.

If you're towing you shouldn't be in overdrive anyways.
Yes I was going to say that about towing in OD. Years ago, 83 or so I believe i had an S-10 with Overdrive. Well the under powered motor would not keep it in OD even when not pulling a trailer, it caused the trans to burn out 5 times under warranty just from pulling a small lawn maintainance trailer in od then I paid to have a 350 turbo put it because it was just gonna cost too much. Well somebody at GM caught wind and asked to put a new od trans in no cost to me. I was now driving daily 220 miles there and back so 440 miles for a courier. On the 401 the wind and the trucks and the slight hills would cause the truck to go in and out of overdrive and it would overheat the trans. Well that test trans made it 100 miles on the highway, a line blew, caught fire. I was so happy as I ran along the highway looking back watching the fire hoping for a kaboom. All it was was burning tranny fluid off the exhaust. So it got towed, I had a backup driver come get me and finish the run. No I wasn't hauling anything heavy, just a box of mail or whatever. Heaviest thing was like 100 lbs.
GM was bummed, then they rebuilt that same tranny the next day and put some heavier spring somewhere....well dang that thing could run uphill with a headwind at 60 mph and it would not go out of od....sometimes you had to pull the shifter down cuz no power in od. It was finally fixed. I believe that was part of the research behind the building of the most popular gm od transmissions.
To get to my point even back then it was recommended to not drive in OD while pulling a trailer or in hilly areas. I have not checked my Ram manual for that, I just listen for excessive shifting.
 

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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 11:42 AM
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If you're towing you shouldn't be in overdrive anyways.
I will agree that you should NOT be towing IN & OUT of OD.

Nothing wrong with towing IN OD.

My problem is that an engine with 407 ftlbs of available torque shouldn't shift IN & OUT when cruising at 65mph due to a 50' overpass.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 12:05 PM
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I tow an 18ft dual Axel with 3 ATVs + one in the bed, The one in the bed causes more rear end droop then I'd expect but the truck tows like a champ, barley knows anythings back there. I get 11-12 MPG while towing I leave the OD on. I have done the same thing with my sons F150 with the 5.4, while it doesn't swat like the ram it begs for mercy while towing.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 05Dakotaho
I will agree that you should NOT be towing IN & OUT of OD.

Nothing wrong with towing IN OD.

My problem is that an engine with 407 ftlbs of available torque shouldn't shift IN & OUT when cruising at 65mph due to a 50' overpass.
Depends on where you are in the powerband. I do agree that you can tow in OD if the tranny is not hunting. However the driver has to be bright enough to be running within the powerband of the engine if you expect to be towing in OD. Expecting to be running at 1500-1800 RPM in OD pulling a trailer and have it stay there isn't realistic for a gas engine. The 407 ft/lbs of torque is at 4000 RPM.

I think that a lot of people these days would benefit from driving a stick shift for a while so that they learn that there is a happy spot.
 

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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by oldjeep
Expecting to be running at 1500-1800 RPM in OD pulling a trailer and have it stay there isn't realistic for a gas engine.
My 4.7 Dak with 4.10 rear does it (1700-1800rpm) with no problem and the actual truck weighs only 500lbs less than the Ram.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 05Dakotaho
My 4.7 Dak with 4.10 rear does it (1700-1800rpm) with no problem and the actual truck weighs only 500lbs less than the Ram.
I'm guessing that your ram does not have 4:10 gears and that your dakota does not have 34" tires.

You need to have some understanding of final drive ratio before making comparisons like that.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 12:26 PM
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I would post my drivetrain/tire ratio excel spreadsheet for you but you are in an argumentative mode and probably would not understand it even if you saw it.
 

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