Hemi slows down as soon as my foot's off the gas...
Well hold on here. I'm not thinking that there's any mechanical problem, just a more agressive downshift at around town speeds. ( 30mph or so ) When letting off the gas in the '09 the truck coasted while slowing, with the '10 there's a downshift that wasn't there before. I think that's what the OP was asking about. I believe it has to do with the fuel cutoff system since that is the only difference between an '09 and a '10... Which is where my enging braking idea comes in.
As far as the gear noise from the front tranny/diff area, I'm wondering if it's cold fluid related. I had the original truck from late July to early January here in the northeast, and never had a chance to compare various noises and quirks between fluids sitting in an 80 degree pan against a 12 degrees. Might just be a personality trait of the truck.
BTW... when asked, my dealer mechanic said the only difference between '09 and '10 "is the badge".

As far as the gear noise from the front tranny/diff area, I'm wondering if it's cold fluid related. I had the original truck from late July to early January here in the northeast, and never had a chance to compare various noises and quirks between fluids sitting in an 80 degree pan against a 12 degrees. Might just be a personality trait of the truck.
BTW... when asked, my dealer mechanic said the only difference between '09 and '10 "is the badge".
According to the *llpar website, iDFSO was introduced on the 2010 Ram 1500 and is one of the reasons that the "fuel saver" light does not exist and will not work on the 2009s. It says "Noted: the fuel saver indicator light will be added to the minivans, LX cars, Journey, Nitro 4×4, all Jeep 4×4s (except Patriot/Compass), and Ram 1500, with select engines, for the 2010 model year. It will advise people when they have reached the economy target zone and fuel-saver mode target range." As the 2009s didn't have iDFSO, there's no light to light. Answers a lot of questions on these forums regarding the light. Of course, iDFSO is just software, so why it can't be flashed in, it doesn't say.
Now, that doesn't address the noticable feeling of deceleration, but from what I've been able to read on most websites that discuss decel fuel shutoff, it's not supposed to be user-noticable, according to the manufacturers. But we all know how that works IRL.
Now, that doesn't address the noticable feeling of deceleration, but from what I've been able to read on most websites that discuss decel fuel shutoff, it's not supposed to be user-noticable, according to the manufacturers. But we all know how that works IRL.
Last edited by wolfmark; Feb 8, 2010 at 10:58 PM.

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Last edited by bremsstrahlung; Feb 9, 2010 at 11:30 AM.
(Depending on how you read your statement, I asume you are trying to indicate 09's do not have the light or the iDFSO. I also assume you are trying to indicate the 2010's have both,)
IMHO, the fuel saver light is linked only to the MDS system, and has nothing to do with iDFSO.
Last edited by Scotrod; Feb 10, 2010 at 09:10 AM.
My 2009 does have the fuel saver light, and of course does not have the iDFSO.
(Depending on how you read your statement, I asume you are trying to indicate 09's do not have the light or the iDFSO. I also assume you are trying to indicate the 2010's have both,)
IMHO, the fuel saver light is linked only to the MDS system, and has nothing to do with iDFSO.
(Depending on how you read your statement, I asume you are trying to indicate 09's do not have the light or the iDFSO. I also assume you are trying to indicate the 2010's have both,)
IMHO, the fuel saver light is linked only to the MDS system, and has nothing to do with iDFSO.
Reading around this site, there are several 09 owners who don't have the fuel saver light and would like to have it. I guess in reading my post you could assume I meant to declare that all 09s don't have the light, but of course, I would be wrong.
It seems that the "Fuel Saver" light, or on my 10 the "ECO" light, is related to more than just MDS or iDFSO alone. I did assume that, based on the *llpar quote above, that perhaps the reason early 09s don't have the light might be because they didn't have iDFSO and that once it was planned for inclusion in the 10s, they changed the EVIC to display the light to accomodate the coming change, and perhaps link it to MDS as well.
And FWIW, this officially sanctioned RamZone web page ( http://www.ramzone.com/2010/01/27/bo...-idfso-system/ ) does imply that the light is available beginning with the 10s and can even be read as applying specifically to iDFSO.
Lots of confusing info out there regarding the light to say the least.
Last edited by wolfmark; Feb 10, 2010 at 08:28 PM.
Anythings possible! 
No light with MDS.
A light with MDS and no iDFSO
A light with both MDS and iDFSO!!

I wonder, if people who are experiencing the 'sensation of slowing down' as the pedal is released and iDFSO engages, are getting the 'light' even when operating in 8 cyl. mode. It takes a while for my MDS to engage while coasting, I wonder if it is instantaneous with the iFDSO system,,,
Anybody here watching the light to see if it activates when the 'anchor is thrown out'?
No light with MDS.
A light with MDS and no iDFSO
A light with both MDS and iDFSO!!
I wonder, if people who are experiencing the 'sensation of slowing down' as the pedal is released and iDFSO engages, are getting the 'light' even when operating in 8 cyl. mode. It takes a while for my MDS to engage while coasting, I wonder if it is instantaneous with the iFDSO system,,,
Anybody here watching the light to see if it activates when the 'anchor is thrown out'?
I don't have a light- too low a trim level I guess? When I press the little button to scroll through my odometer, temperature, etc there's one thing that says ECO. Maybe I'll turn it to that & see if anything happens...
So I scrolled my little odo display to ECO and it does say 'ECO on' when the MDS kicks in. It does go to ECO on as soon as I take my foot off the gas. It mostly just seems to turn off when I'm accellerating somewhat rapidly.
The guy at the dealership told me the only way I could tell if my MDS was doing its thing was by 'getting to know the feel of it.'
It doesn't appear to turn on while I'm idling, which seems odd to me, but what do i know about these kinds of things
The guy at the dealership told me the only way I could tell if my MDS was doing its thing was by 'getting to know the feel of it.'
It doesn't appear to turn on while I'm idling, which seems odd to me, but what do i know about these kinds of things
Hi there, I have a 2010 4x4 Ram with a Hemi in it and I noticed that when I'm driving on the highway as soon as I take my foot off the gas it immediately starts slowing down. So I always have to have my foot on the gas to maintain speed.
Are they all like this?
Is it to do with the MDS technology?
Thanks.
Are they all like this?
Is it to do with the MDS technology?
Thanks.



