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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 08:24 AM
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Hey Frogslinger I appreciate the opinion. Its what helps us all make educated decisions about the topics on this board. So disagree or not I appreciate the response.


My goal is to build a awesome looking truck that still fits in the garage. I really would like to put a suspension lift on it but the only 3" lift I found was the one Rizam installed. (which looks awesome btw). I called Pure performance and asked them about the 3" prerunner kit and they quoted me about 4k installed. Thats a bit much for a 3" lift Ill never really take full advantage of. Add wheels, tires, nerf bars and new mufflers and Im in it for 8 grand. Not worth it to me. The reality is if I am in a situation where I need some super suspension system, Im probably not gonna drive my nice polished truck through it. I like the look and I like driving a truck that has a more commanding view of the road.

With all my research I think I'm still gonna go with it. As far as not looking that good, Im not sure you can even see anything with the gap guards in place. You would have to get under the truck to see it. The pics Ive seen of the performance accessories body lift look good.

I know its not the most desired solution for most but it gets me the look I want without sacrificing ride quality. (So I hear, We shall see)
 
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Rizam
Ill give to to ya straight.. This is totally my opinion but I doubt im alone... Body lifts are for the ones who can't afford suspension lifts. No offense but instead of botering with the body lift part , do the level and you can still use the 35's
I couldn't disagree with you more!

As someone who grew up on a farm and in the woods, I've owned three vehicles with body lifts and two with suspension lifts, to include my current truck.

Granted, a well designed suspension kit offers the most advantages for off-road use, a body lift does have a few advantages over a suspension lift also. Oh, and technically a level kit IS a suspension lift as well.

Body lifts keep the frame in the stock location, a definite plus where body lean/roll is concerned. Also (and this is big) on an IFS truck, a body lift DOES NOT raise the angle of the CV joints which significantly weakens them.
That said, a well designed suspension kit will not significantly raise the CV angle, but many of them do. Also, better suspension kits come with much beefier tie rod ends, A-arms and other key suspension components giving you a real edge with hard core off-road use.

But how many of you guys are gonna use your trucks off-road to the full potential of a suspension lift? The truth is, for 90% of the people who want to lift their trucks for bigger tire clearance, a body lift is all they'd ever need.

Why spend upwards of $2000 when a $350 kit will do everything you need? Yeah, if you got the $$$ just burning a hole in your pocket, a suspension lift is better but if you don't, why spend the $$$ on something you don't need?

I went suspension because I'm off-road A LOT. I don't hard core wheel anymore, but I'm working around my hunting/fishing property often and hunt and fish in some really hard-to-get-to places. I was approaching my 40s when I did this lift and have had a couple back surgeries and frankly wanted the better ride quality a suspension lift offers. But I've got nothing agains a body lift or a body lift/level combo.

Besides, according to your line of thinking, a diesel truck is BETTER than a gasser, so I guess gas engine based trucks are for people who can't afford a diesel, right? See my point?
 

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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 11:53 AM
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There is nothing wrong with body lifts. The reason anyone gets a lift is for ground clearance (either for offroading or looks), and while a suspension lift raises the frame, the lowest part of the truck, the axles, remain at the same height so not much real clearance is gained. The real ground clearance is gained through larger tires, which a body lift can provide for, at a much lower cost.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2010 | 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jbgp1200
Hey Frogslinger I appreciate the opinion. Its what helps us all make educated decisions about the topics on this board. So disagree or not I appreciate the response.


My goal is to build a awesome looking truck that still fits in the garage. I really would like to put a suspension lift on it but the only 3" lift I found was the one Rizam installed. (which looks awesome btw). I called Pure performance and asked them about the 3" prerunner kit and they quoted me about 4k installed. Thats a bit much for a 3" lift Ill never really take full advantage of. Add wheels, tires, nerf bars and new mufflers and Im in it for 8 grand. Not worth it to me. The reality is if I am in a situation where I need some super suspension system, Im probably not gonna drive my nice polished truck through it. I like the look and I like driving a truck that has a more commanding view of the road.
Hey I respect a difference in opinion. Everyone has the right to be wrong...

The KORE kit which is really good costs less than half the quoted price (before install), and is an exellent kit. I just rolled my suspension upgrades in when I bought the truck (to make the long story short)...

Originally Posted by HammerZ71
Body lifts keep the frame in the stock location, a definite plus where body lean/roll is concerned. Also (and this is big) on an IFS truck, a body lift DOES NOT raise the angle of the CV joints which significantly weakens them.

True.

Originally Posted by HammerZ71
That said, a well designed suspension kit will not significantly raise the CV angle, but many of them do. Also, better suspension kits come with much beefier tie rod ends, A-arms and other key suspension components giving you a real edge with hard core off-road use.


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But how many of you guys are gonna use your trucks off-road to the full potential of a suspension lift? The truth is, for 90% of the people who want to lift their trucks for bigger tire clearance, a body lift is all they'd ever need.


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Why spend upwards of $2000 when a $350 kit will do everything you need? Yeah, if you got the $$$ just burning a hole in your pocket, a suspension lift is better but if you don't, why spend the $$$ on something you don't need?
Besides, according to your line of thinking, a diesel truck is BETTER than a gasser, so I guess gas engine based trucks are for people who can't afford a diesel, right? See my point?
And yet when put together not true...

To attack the argument that is the summation, Diesels are not better because they are too heavy. If Ram had built a 1500 with a baby cummins I would be driving one right now.

I am all about paying a little more for the extra bit of performance...

A body lift will contribute to body roll more than a good suspension lift...
 
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Old Aug 6, 2010 | 10:37 AM
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35 inch tiers are to big for the stock rims they are only 7 inches wide i looked on dodges website u shouldnt go more than 4 inches wider then rim. try a 34 inch tire 295 70 17 nittos carry them....they r 11.5 inches wide still not reccomeded but alot better... I think i will get those tires
 
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Old Aug 9, 2010 | 02:11 PM
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Alright, I finally pulled the trigger. Everything has been ordered. Body lift, 35" Prop Comp tires and Xd Badlands wheels.

Installation on the 19th. Thanks for all your feed back.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2010 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jbgp1200
Alright, I finally pulled the trigger. Everything has been ordered. Body lift, 35" Prop Comp tires and Xd Badlands wheels.

Installation on the 19th. Thanks for all your feed back.
Sweet!!! We want pics!!! I have a 6" BDS +2" Revtek spacers and I am going 3" body lift next year. Let me know how you like the Body lift you have.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by puckstopper337
35 inch tiers are to big for the stock rims they are only 7 inches wide i looked on dodges website u shouldnt go more than 4 inches wider then rim. try a 34 inch tire 295 70 17 nittos carry them....they r 11.5 inches wide still not reccomeded but alot better... I think i will get those tires
Tire height has nothing to do with whether or not it will fit on a rim... width of the tire is the relavent metric.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 06:29 AM
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Congrats JB, take plenty of pictures when its done, welcome to the lifted ones.......
 
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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 11:55 AM
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Great, so I get back from he dealer ship after getting my oil change and im a bit concerned. The service guy tells me that adding a 3" body lift will void a lot of my warranty? He could not tell me what a lot was but then proceeded to tell me that i would be stretching the wiring harnesses and affecting the cooling of the engine and the AC. Then went on to tell me that no creaks would be warrantied if I ever have any. He says that raising the body 3 inches will rais the radiator 3 inches above the fan and cause cooling issues.

He then says that he bought a truck with a body lift and took it off right away. So he hates body lifts. Ok some people like them and some people don't. But whats the truth here.

4 wheel parts says that's not true and they would have to prove that the lift caused any issue before they could refuse to warranty it. They even said that there is a law protecting me from them refusing to warranty the truck if they could not prove that the modified parts caused the issue.

Thoughts, whats the validity to this.
 

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