87 Octane vs 89 Octane..
Optimum fuel mpg and performance is with mid-grade. The times I've used 87 octane I never get quite the fuel mpg I do on 89.If anything I'd use the 87 once in a blue moon to help clean carbon from valves,pistons etc.Its a hotter/faster burn.That why it spark knocks on 87.
Octane History
The name "octane" comes from the following fact: When you take crude oil and "crack" it in a refinery, you end up getting hydrocarbon chains of different lengths. These different chain lengths can then be separated from each other and blended to form different fuels. For example, you may have heard of methane, propane and butane. All three of them are hydrocarbons. Methane has just a single carbon atom. Propane has three carbon atoms chained together. Butane has four carbon atoms chained together. Pentane has five, hexane has six, heptane has seven and octane has eight carbons chained together.
It turns out that heptane handles compression very poorly. Compress it just a little and it ignites spontaneously. Octane handles compression very well -- you can compress it a lot and nothing happens. Eighty-seven-octane gasoline is gasoline that contains 87-percent octane and 13-percent heptane (or some other combination of fuels that has the same performance of the 87/13 combination of octane/heptane). It spontaneously ignites at a given compression level, and can only be used in engines that do not exceed that compression ratio.
During WWI, it was discovered that you can add a chemical called tetraethyl lead (TEL) to gasoline and significantly improve its octane rating above the octane/heptane combination. Cheaper grades of gasoline could be made usable by adding TEL. This led to the widespread use of "ethyl" or "leaded" gasoline. Unfortunately, the side effects of adding lead to gasoline are:
Currently engineers are trying to develop airplane engines that can use unleaded gasoline. Jet engines burn kerosene, by the way.
The name "octane" comes from the following fact: When you take crude oil and "crack" it in a refinery, you end up getting hydrocarbon chains of different lengths. These different chain lengths can then be separated from each other and blended to form different fuels. For example, you may have heard of methane, propane and butane. All three of them are hydrocarbons. Methane has just a single carbon atom. Propane has three carbon atoms chained together. Butane has four carbon atoms chained together. Pentane has five, hexane has six, heptane has seven and octane has eight carbons chained together.
It turns out that heptane handles compression very poorly. Compress it just a little and it ignites spontaneously. Octane handles compression very well -- you can compress it a lot and nothing happens. Eighty-seven-octane gasoline is gasoline that contains 87-percent octane and 13-percent heptane (or some other combination of fuels that has the same performance of the 87/13 combination of octane/heptane). It spontaneously ignites at a given compression level, and can only be used in engines that do not exceed that compression ratio.
During WWI, it was discovered that you can add a chemical called tetraethyl lead (TEL) to gasoline and significantly improve its octane rating above the octane/heptane combination. Cheaper grades of gasoline could be made usable by adding TEL. This led to the widespread use of "ethyl" or "leaded" gasoline. Unfortunately, the side effects of adding lead to gasoline are:
- Lead clogs a catalytic converter and renders it inoperable within minutes.
- The Earth became covered in a thin layer of lead, and lead is toxic to many living things (including humans).
Currently engineers are trying to develop airplane engines that can use unleaded gasoline. Jet engines burn kerosene, by the way.
http://www.api.org/aboutoilgas/gasol...ine-octane.cfm
Gasoline with a higher heating value (energy content) provides better fuel economy. Traditionally, premium gasoline has had a slightly higher heating value than regular, and, thus, provides slightly better fuel economy, but it is difficult to detect in normal driving. There can be even larger differences in heating value between batches of gasoline from the same refinery, between summer and winter volatility classes, or between brands of gasoline from different refineries because of compositional differences. The differences are small and there is no practical way for the consumer to identify gasoline with a higher-than-average heating value.
Gasoline with a higher heating value (energy content) provides better fuel economy. Traditionally, premium gasoline has had a slightly higher heating value than regular, and, thus, provides slightly better fuel economy, but it is difficult to detect in normal driving. There can be even larger differences in heating value between batches of gasoline from the same refinery, between summer and winter volatility classes, or between brands of gasoline from different refineries because of compositional differences. The differences are small and there is no practical way for the consumer to identify gasoline with a higher-than-average heating value.
It would be as waste of money I think to run 92.
As for 87 vs 89, as you can see from my table, despite the higher cost up front, it is the same or cheaper $$ per 100kms driving with 89. So I am sticking with it. Ignore the last tank, a lot of little trips around town at the end of that one, still not too bad though.
As for 87 vs 89, as you can see from my table, despite the higher cost up front, it is the same or cheaper $$ per 100kms driving with 89. So I am sticking with it. Ignore the last tank, a lot of little trips around town at the end of that one, still not too bad though.
Have seen a few cylinder failures in Hemis and in every case the owner was running 87 octane fuel REGULARLY! Have also seen Hemis with 150k on them where the owner has never run anything BUT 87 octane.
So, REGULAR use of 87 increases chances of engine failure, but does not guarantee it. Pre-detonation often occurs and that is not a good thing on an engine on a regular basis.
However, this is WITH PROLONGED USE. Would I panic of I was on the road and only 87 was available? NO. Would I use 87 octane regularly? NO. One tank ain't gonna kill you. I just wouldn't tow a 5000k trailer with it in there...
So, REGULAR use of 87 increases chances of engine failure, but does not guarantee it. Pre-detonation often occurs and that is not a good thing on an engine on a regular basis.
However, this is WITH PROLONGED USE. Would I panic of I was on the road and only 87 was available? NO. Would I use 87 octane regularly? NO. One tank ain't gonna kill you. I just wouldn't tow a 5000k trailer with it in there...
It would be as waste of money I think to run 92.
As for 87 vs 89, as you can see from my table, despite the higher cost up front, it is the same or cheaper $$ per 100kms driving with 89. So I am sticking with it. Ignore the last tank, a lot of little trips around town at the end of that one, still not too bad though.

As for 87 vs 89, as you can see from my table, despite the higher cost up front, it is the same or cheaper $$ per 100kms driving with 89. So I am sticking with it. Ignore the last tank, a lot of little trips around town at the end of that one, still not too bad though.

Last edited by BluRider; Sep 19, 2010 at 06:08 PM.




But I run a SC 93 tune.