Stock Wrangler HPs in winter
Well, we finally got snow in NH yesterday. Came down at about 2" per hour. I left work with about 6" on the road. The Michelins did very well. I had it in 4 wheel auto most of the time. The only time the back would slip was going up hill until the 4 wheel auto kicked in. Made about 15.5 MPG on back roads. So the LTX M/S2's did ok. My biggest complaint is that the truck does not do well in turns. The front wanted to plow around corners. (20" tires issue.) In other words turn the wheel and it kept going straight. Now if I had it in full time 4x4 that might have been different, but with at least 6" of powder on the road I guess the whole experience was good, as far as the Michelin's went.
We just got another 8" of snow and Wranglers were great again! I will replace them with a true AT when they are past their life cycle. TheY are great in the rain! No hydroplanning whatsoever on very rainy days! I will however buy some dedicated winter tires/wheels this fall. Seems we get more and more snow every year? So much for global warming!!!!!!
Last edited by rrdstarr; Jan 14, 2011 at 03:48 PM.
I switched mine out this year for a set of Toyo Open Country A/T. I used the Wranglers for 2 1/2 winters (30,000kms) - there was still plenty of tread life on them but they just weren't performing like I thought a 4x4 tire should. There are many factors to consider with respect to driving style and performance requirements (Highway, Offroad, mixed use). I'm a lot happier with my new tires
As for me, the stock Wranglers were not an option on my new '10 Sport. Have owned several Rams since 1995 and have encountered the same problem with all of them. Premature wear and less than optimum performance in winter conditions. I was torn between keeping the Wranglers for summer use and buying a dedicated tire/wheel package for winter months. After buying a set of Cooper Zeon LTZ's, I decided to sell my stock tire/wheel combo. Love the Coopers. No comparison between those and the HP's. No dicernable milage loss. No elevated road noise due to the more aggressive tread pattern. And as an added bonus, they look GREAT. Just my $0.02. And the best thing about the swap was that the proceedes from selling the stock tire/wheels coverd about 80% of the investment to the upgrade. Hope this helps.
The one thing I notice for sure with the Wranglers, VS. the dedicated winter tires on the wife's Jeep GC, is the stopping and turning is so much better with a true winter tire. But, that is to be expected, and I just have to be carefully about hard stops/turns on slick roads.
Here in dallas with 84,000 on truck , I don't care for Good Yr. Can not get any real milage out of them . Don't like the rain either .... I have had 2 sets replaced and had a cut on one 2 weeks ago ... went to Discount and replaced tire .. went back to BF Goodrich long trail . when have to replace the other 3 will do the same .
Had them on my 05 and 08. For my 2010.. I left the dealer and drove straight to the tire store and for $340 after the swap got a set of Cooper Zeon's put on. My HP's always wore out early and I did a rotate every other oil change and they sucked in the snow, mud, rain, dirt. Love my new Coopers.... a HUGE differance. Find myself now switching into 4wd less than before. The HP's are just big car tires. I have 3 in-laws with Rams and 2 buddies and they all say the same thing.
just my .02
just my .02



