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Just how much better is the Hemi over the 4.7

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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 12:50 PM
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For 25k you can get a brand new crew cab big horn 2wd with a hemi...
 
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 12:51 PM
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Actually if you get on the Dodge official site where you build a Ram truck and look at the two graphs (4.7 and hemi engines) that show HP and Torque, you will see that the 4.7 has lots more torque at lower rpms and a much flatter torque curve, than does the hemi. Torque is what gets you going and does the work. The hemi's hp and tq numbers are ultimately higher, but at a much higher rpm, where most people don't drive or tow. I would think the 4.7 would be more than adequate given these numbers - but then I have not owned or driven one with a 4.7 engine. Good luck on your decision. As someone earlier said, we all have opinions, but only yours counts in the end, drive both and decide.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by USAF1
Actually if you get on the Dodge official site where you build a Ram truck and look at the two graphs (4.7 and hemi engines) that show HP and Torque, you will see that the 4.7 has lots more torque at lower rpms and a much flatter torque curve, than does the hemi. Torque is what gets you going and does the work. The hemi's hp and tq numbers are ultimately higher, but at a much higher rpm, where most people don't drive or tow.
This is not true. Please go back and look at the graph at the official web site - it has been corrected. There is no comparisons at all in torque number. Here is the link

http://www.dodge.com/en/2010/ram_150...ty/powertrain/

The 4.7 curve is also not flatter, it just looks that way because the graph intentionally uses 75 per division for the 4.7 versus 25 for the 5.7.

Just a quick look shows that the 5.7 makes about 315 lb-ft at 1200 RPM but the 4.7 only makes the same torque at around 33-3400 RPM
 
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 03:19 PM
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When I test drove the small v8 and the hemi , there is a difference
Small V8 - was fine when crusing in town and on the highway
Small V8 lost some of its torque and passing power
I f you are not going to tow anytrhing heavy , you will be ok
I don't remember if you get the deactivation on the small V8
Gas is probally the same
Price cheaper
Hemi-- Much better torque and Punch power
Cylinder deactavaion on block
Will tow what you want to
Gas is about the same.
Hemi -dual exhaust
 
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 04:13 PM
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Pdavis, hows the new truck treating you?
 
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Pedro Dog
This is not true. Please go back and look at the graph at the official web site - it has been corrected. There is no comparisons at all in torque number. Here is the link

http://www.dodge.com/en/2010/ram_150...ty/powertrain/

The 4.7 curve is also not flatter, it just looks that way because the graph intentionally uses 75 per division for the 4.7 versus 25 for the 5.7.

Just a quick look shows that the 5.7 makes about 315 lb-ft at 1200 RPM but the 4.7 only makes the same torque at around 33-3400 RPM
Let me say I dont disagree with the numbers you are stating for the chart reflects that. Its the chart I have an issue with. Notice the HP and torque figures dont cross at 5252RPM. Never heard of a gas motor not doing this?? Horsepower = (Torque X RPM) / 5252. Therefore Horsepower must ALWAYS equal torque at 5252RPM, universally, regardless of what engine is being dynoed. Looking at the chart in the link I can't make Chryslers HP and tourqe numbers jive. I do love my HEMI the numbers just dont calculate out.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 07:05 PM
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I test drove both before I purchased my 2010 TRX4 Quad Cab with the Hemi... I love the power!!!!! It's like driving a sports car, not a truck. I agree check several dealers, shop ebay.. you can get great deals on Rams right now with the discounted price and great financing... I paid 28k for mine in june, sticker was 34k.. Check Greenway in Orlando, I bought from them and saved about 2k. I was lucky it was only 200 miles from my house.. It may be worth to fly in and drive home if you can get a deal on a new Ram... Remember check ebay....
 
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 08:07 PM
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I have the hemi. Never drove the 4.7. I agree with the previous reply. Go to dealer and test drive both to see what you like better.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 06:15 AM
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Had a RCSB with the 4.7, after trading in an '06 CC with Hemi. Never liked it. Felt under powered and sluggish. Traded it in with 2512 miles on it for the R/T. There seem to be a lot of opinions, but I've owned both and the 4.7 doesn't compare, and actually gets worse hwy mileage because of MDS. Ultimately it's your money and you need to be happy with your purchase. Good luck.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikes87GN
Let me say I dont disagree with the numbers you are stating for the chart reflects that. Its the chart I have an issue with. Notice the HP and torque figures dont cross at 5252RPM. Never heard of a gas motor not doing this?? Horsepower = (Torque X RPM) / 5252. Therefore Horsepower must ALWAYS equal torque at 5252RPM, universally, regardless of what engine is being dynoed. Looking at the chart in the link I can't make Chryslers HP and tourqe numbers jive. I do love my HEMI the numbers just dont calculate out.
Pedro Dog - you are right, they have significantly changed the chart for the hemi (it even says corrected figures right on the chart), figures are now a lot higher at low rpm. However, please note that the tq curve for the 4.7 is still very flat compared to the hemi or most any other engine outside of diesels. And Mikes87GN comment that the hp and tq lines have to cross is right on. Something is really fishy about all this. Why would a company of this size post the wrong chart for hemis on their international web site and leave it there for months?
 
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