I need to know if it's the truck or the tires that's not performing on wintery roads?
It helps you stop and go. Pushing around corners - sounds like you are driving in 4wd or using the brakes while cornering.
Drives like every pickup I've owned for the last 20 years. However, I never drive in the winter without bed weight - so maybe it handles worse than others when unloaded.
One difference with my truck is that I had the 17's with Goodyear SRA's and not the craptastic street truck HP tires that come with the 20's.
I've now got Destination A/T's on the drive axle and those work much better than the SRA's - which were OK, but not great.
One difference with my truck is that I had the 17's with Goodyear SRA's and not the craptastic street truck HP tires that come with the 20's.
I've now got Destination A/T's on the drive axle and those work much better than the SRA's - which were OK, but not great.
i have the zeon ltzs and we had alot of snow and ice last winter and i had no problems with the tires most of the time didnt even use 4wd only for the really deep snow or ice.i get more traction with the coopers than i ever did with the factory goodyears.ice is ice you have to go slow any tire will slide if your going to fast or hit the brakes to hard unless you have the tires studded and remember the conditions dictate what is too fast or if your driving slow enough not someones opinion.also these trucks weigh about 6000lbs its gonna take alot to stop.weight in motion tends to stay in motion especially on snow or ice.i see alot of people with suvs,alll wheel drive,traction control,esp,etc driving way to fast for the conditions then when they lose it and crash they say i dont why i crashed i had 4wheel drive,esp etc..
Finally someone who realizes you still have to be careful even in a truck with 4 wheel drive. You do have a traction advantage but it does not really apply to braking, although ABS is a nice thing to have but I don't remember but I think it shuts of when in 4x mode, at least other truck I had did? I will have to keep my eye on it. Winter tires are a good solution to your problems too, I thought BS but our Avenger has them and my son said they are nice even on ice especially, they are Dunlop Grapsic something or rather.
I appreciate all the comments/suggestions.
One thing I need to state is that my experience with the truck wanting to push straight when cornering has nothing to do with me going to fast. I understand speed Vs. Conditions, however I feel the truck wants to push at very slow speeds.
Well, here's the deal, I had my Cooper Zeons for 38000 miles and they were wearing very nicely but three out of the four were not holding air like they should. One tire especially would go down to 28lbs in three days and always trip my TPMS sensor. Over the course of several months and then switching the tire to a different rim, it was determined that the tire was the cause not the rim. I had the store waraanty three of the four tires and I needed to decide if I was going to go with Cooper Zeons again.
I just got all new Zeons put on and they "siped?" the treads, cut little lines in them, which they say makes a huge difference on traction.
One thing I need to state is that my experience with the truck wanting to push straight when cornering has nothing to do with me going to fast. I understand speed Vs. Conditions, however I feel the truck wants to push at very slow speeds.
Well, here's the deal, I had my Cooper Zeons for 38000 miles and they were wearing very nicely but three out of the four were not holding air like they should. One tire especially would go down to 28lbs in three days and always trip my TPMS sensor. Over the course of several months and then switching the tire to a different rim, it was determined that the tire was the cause not the rim. I had the store waraanty three of the four tires and I needed to decide if I was going to go with Cooper Zeons again.
I just got all new Zeons put on and they "siped?" the treads, cut little lines in them, which they say makes a huge difference on traction.
Last edited by drober30; Dec 8, 2010 at 07:48 PM.
From what I can tell those tires are marketed as a hybrid between a sport truck tire and an all-terrain tire. All Terrain's are mediocore at best in snow & ice conditions, now take into account that these tires are also manufactured with street performance in mind and is it any wonder that they suck on ice? They do not have the mountain snowflake designation either. For decent performance on snow and ice get an AT tire with the mountain snowflake symbol on them.
For good performance get a true winter tire.
For good performance get a true winter tire.



