Ethanolt Treatment?
Ok so is this something you would have done periodically if you're running ethanol blend fuel or what? I've never heard of an ethanol treatment. My next question is about the E-85 motors that some of the rams have. I'm assuming those are better equipped to handle ethanol blends? I have the HEMI so I don't run ethanol blends. I don't think they even have it in Alaska but once I get back down to the lower 48 I guess this is something I should be conscience of.
I was shopping for a used 3.3 Chrysler engine. 1999 Caravan. A broker service that supplied engines world wide said he had two low mileage 3.3 flex fuel engines on his books. He said the only difference was the fuel rail. That everything else was the same.
I try to buy ethanol-free gas whenever I can. There are two stations close to me who have it and they both tend to be 2-3 cents cheaper per gallon than anyone else in town too.
Obviously I can't get to places with ethanol-free all the time but I would say 80% of my fill-ups are from ethanol-free stations.
I tend to see a little bit better fuel economy when using the pure gas as well.
Here is a pretty good site to find one in your area.
http://pure-gas.org/
Obviously I can't get to places with ethanol-free all the time but I would say 80% of my fill-ups are from ethanol-free stations.
I tend to see a little bit better fuel economy when using the pure gas as well.
Here is a pretty good site to find one in your area.
http://pure-gas.org/
I'd have to see a REAL scientific study before I would believe any of that hype from their own website ----- if this was all true, there would be a nationwide outcry from about every news source avaialble!
That is not to say that a can or two a (if a large tank) of Seafoam won't help keep yur fuel system in top notch cleanliness, because it will. Best to use it when you are going to be doing a lot of city driving. Annually, is about right.
It sure is a lot cheaper to dump it in the tank before refilling, than to pay someone to dump some unknown product, and charge you 10 times the price.
NEVER, NEVER, NEVER believe a companies marketing hype - it's usually pure BS.
That is not to say that a can or two a (if a large tank) of Seafoam won't help keep yur fuel system in top notch cleanliness, because it will. Best to use it when you are going to be doing a lot of city driving. Annually, is about right.
It sure is a lot cheaper to dump it in the tank before refilling, than to pay someone to dump some unknown product, and charge you 10 times the price.
NEVER, NEVER, NEVER believe a companies marketing hype - it's usually pure BS.
Seafoam is proven and it works. Unless a piece of carbon breaks loose and closes the gap on a plug there is no reason to replace plugs or even change oil. I usually do a oil change and add a can of seafoam to the fuel tank of each of my cars.
I'd have to see a REAL scientific study before I would believe any of that hype from their own website ----- if this was all true, there would be a nationwide outcry from about every news source avaialble!
NEVER, NEVER, NEVER believe a companies marketing hype - it's usually pure BS.
NEVER, NEVER, NEVER believe a companies marketing hype - it's usually pure BS.
Do some google search`s, you`ll find everything you need, to be convinced that its really bad.
Actually, as for news sources and outcry`s, FOX news has covered the subject SEVERAL times.
As for companies marketing hype, they get tested all the time these days, and they would get sued for misrepresentaion in a heartbeat if they were selling products that dont do what they`re saying they`re supposed to be doing. Some companies make quality product, some dont. StarBrite is a really good company, they deliver the proof every time when out source testing companies test their products. Have i used their StarBriteE10 treatment...????...yes, and it does exactly what it says its supposed to do. I`ve recently switched over to the StaBil (marine grade) now... it is alot cheaper and does the same thing with the exception of it adding lubricant into it so as to protect any metal parts in the fuel system.
As for ethanol treatments, seafoam isn`t one of the better treatments to use.
I`m not saying its a bad product, just not one of the better ones for E10 treatment`s.
K100 has actually tested the worst...!!!! (K100 contains alcohol...!!!)
Remember what i said earlier, alcohol ATTRACTS moisture, proven fact...!!!!!!!!
Never buy ANY products containing alcohol, unless it says BEER (lol...yum, i love beer)
Last edited by HEMI5150; Mar 9, 2011 at 11:38 PM.
Go down to the chart and you can see what most products are made of. http://www.fuel-testers.com/is_gas_a..._e10_list.html
Oil companies have a big budget for producing negative media on ethanol. While I don't think it's a direct replacement, it's a great alternative with alot of benefits. I don't want to get into a technical debate, there's plenty of those elsewhere...but I've personally been running ethanol blends in my vehicles for years with no negative results. I use E30 in every DD I have, and E85 in turboed/supercharged applications that I've had better results than expensive 100+oct gas. There's a good handful of people I know personally that are running E98 without seeing the corrosive results everyone preaches about. Ethanol is alcohol, but nothing like Methanol.
Just keep in mind: the fact that alcohol attracts moisture is not always a bad thing, The fact that it can attract moisture, and bind with it, gets it out of the storage tank, and expels it in the combustion process.
I'll admit that I know very little about "ethanol treatments" as it's never been mentioned in any of my owners manuals, in any vehicle/power tool I have ever owned.
I don't like ethanol in my fuel, but looks like we are stuck with it. I do know a few things about ethanol, however. Like less BTU per gallon than gasoline, higher Octane than gasoline, made from organic fermentation, more corrosive than gasoline, more hygroscopic than gasoline, commonly used as a de-moisturizer in fuels, etc, etc, etc, etc. Also the fact that every modern engine is designed to be compatible with ethanol in the fuel.
But, I'll put Seafoam up against ANY fuel treatment product on the market, and more than likely, come out on top! It's good stuff, and does exactly what it says it does. It does demoisturize the fuel, it does stabilize the fuel, it does clean the fuel system, it does disolve varnish and other deposits, it does decarbonize, it does do everything it says it does. Believe me, over the last 50 years, I have tried them all or close to it!
I also realize that almost every product manufacturer/marketer does, in fact , embellish their product in ways that are considered "legal," though maybe not quite morally. If anyone believes the "laws" will completely protect them against shoddy business practices, they should reconsider their position. Most laws are created by the most corrupt people on this planet, namely, lawyers - who stand to gain in every direction, by their enactment.
Luckily, I have been able to amass real world data, over a long period of time, to draw on. I can only report on what I know to be true - and not only what others tell me.
I'm only trying to pass along, to help others avoid some pitfalls I have observed personally...
I'll admit that I know very little about "ethanol treatments" as it's never been mentioned in any of my owners manuals, in any vehicle/power tool I have ever owned.
I don't like ethanol in my fuel, but looks like we are stuck with it. I do know a few things about ethanol, however. Like less BTU per gallon than gasoline, higher Octane than gasoline, made from organic fermentation, more corrosive than gasoline, more hygroscopic than gasoline, commonly used as a de-moisturizer in fuels, etc, etc, etc, etc. Also the fact that every modern engine is designed to be compatible with ethanol in the fuel.
But, I'll put Seafoam up against ANY fuel treatment product on the market, and more than likely, come out on top! It's good stuff, and does exactly what it says it does. It does demoisturize the fuel, it does stabilize the fuel, it does clean the fuel system, it does disolve varnish and other deposits, it does decarbonize, it does do everything it says it does. Believe me, over the last 50 years, I have tried them all or close to it!
I also realize that almost every product manufacturer/marketer does, in fact , embellish their product in ways that are considered "legal," though maybe not quite morally. If anyone believes the "laws" will completely protect them against shoddy business practices, they should reconsider their position. Most laws are created by the most corrupt people on this planet, namely, lawyers - who stand to gain in every direction, by their enactment.
Luckily, I have been able to amass real world data, over a long period of time, to draw on. I can only report on what I know to be true - and not only what others tell me.
I'm only trying to pass along, to help others avoid some pitfalls I have observed personally...
Go down to the chart and you can see what most products are made of. http://www.fuel-testers.com/is_gas_a..._e10_list.html
i was lookin for this link earlier and couldnt find it



