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LU, you have to be VERY specific on this forum, the guys, well I should say ladies, on here, all happen to be on their time of the month, every day, so they can be quiiiitttttteeee touchy. Infact, I think you and the mods should be the only ones able to answer serious tech questions. everyone else thinks because they have a tool set they got at sears on discount, they are a qualified mechanic. Hey now! I did my oil change last weekend and own a truck! I am an official mans man! hahahaha, take it all with a grain of a salt, and if anything, ____ em! let em sit and wonder, rather than help em
With 40+yrs turnin wrench`s in dealerships and my own shop, i guess dosent meen much around here.
I try to give the best advice when i can just from my experiences, some people just wanna argue just for the sake of arguing.
HammerZ71... you nailed it bro, i couldnt have said it any better...!
Guys, if you wont listen to me, then at least listen to hammerZ71....DONT MIX OILS..! Its just NOT a good idea....PERIOD
Last edited by LU229; Dec 6, 2011 at 10:35 AM.
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LU-thats why I respect your opinion. I'm a gear head, took auto classes, but never went for ASE. changed fields to construction and my college degree. but I have lots of wrench experience from my old car, to motorcycles, my rams, and plenty of fixing random stuff. But I still dont have a clue compared to you and a few select guys on here.
aside from any technical aspects,
why the hell would you go mixing oils???
were talking about a 30-50,000 truck here, and you wanna be a cheap bastard and mix oils, spend 5 extra bucks to have the right $h!t in your truck. some of ya'll wanna just argue for the sake of arguing.
I mean your lawn mower, ok. weed-whacker, sure even some times I have to use diffferent oils with the gas because I'm out. but your truck!!!???
and as for the original thread, my oil psi is running at 48 at 2,200 rpms. pathetic
aside from any technical aspects,
why the hell would you go mixing oils???
were talking about a 30-50,000 truck here, and you wanna be a cheap bastard and mix oils, spend 5 extra bucks to have the right $h!t in your truck. some of ya'll wanna just argue for the sake of arguing.
I mean your lawn mower, ok. weed-whacker, sure even some times I have to use diffferent oils with the gas because I'm out. but your truck!!!???
and as for the original thread, my oil psi is running at 48 at 2,200 rpms. pathetic
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I'm gonna be the devil's advocate here and say that you shouldn't mix oil brands, although I've done it myself in the past.
I had a good buddy who I went to college with, played football with actually, who is now a chemical engineer for Exxon/Mobil (or at least he was, I haven't talked to him in probably 10 years). He swears they've done testing on mixing of different additive packages that are out there in different oils and has data showing that certain chemicals react with others making them inert, or even in some cases makes them highly corrosive.
Now I have NO first hand experience of this happening, but I figure he knows a hell of a lot more about it than I do, so I just don't mix oils any more.
Are you gonna have a major catastrophe if you mix oils - probably not, but just the same, I don't do it.
As far as the catch can, I've often thought about installing one, usually EVERY time I clean my throttle body of the gooey, caked on mess that collects on the rear of the plate every 15,000 miles. But I usually forget all about it within a few days.
I'm in the process of making my fake scoop (a band aid for a major hood dent caused by a pine limb) fully functional by cutting the hood and re-routing my CAI up into it. This will also let me get my 2nd battery out from under my toolbox and use the passenger side tray I picked up over a year ago. (I re-routed my set of 2 AWG cables for portable rear winch hookup through a water drain hole to hook up to the battery for the time being). I'm either going to do the catch can or at least install one of those baby filters on it and leave the hose off the CAI. Routing those oil fumes into the air intake is great for the tree-huggers, but really sucks for the engine...
I had a good buddy who I went to college with, played football with actually, who is now a chemical engineer for Exxon/Mobil (or at least he was, I haven't talked to him in probably 10 years). He swears they've done testing on mixing of different additive packages that are out there in different oils and has data showing that certain chemicals react with others making them inert, or even in some cases makes them highly corrosive.
Now I have NO first hand experience of this happening, but I figure he knows a hell of a lot more about it than I do, so I just don't mix oils any more.
Are you gonna have a major catastrophe if you mix oils - probably not, but just the same, I don't do it.
As far as the catch can, I've often thought about installing one, usually EVERY time I clean my throttle body of the gooey, caked on mess that collects on the rear of the plate every 15,000 miles. But I usually forget all about it within a few days.
I'm in the process of making my fake scoop (a band aid for a major hood dent caused by a pine limb) fully functional by cutting the hood and re-routing my CAI up into it. This will also let me get my 2nd battery out from under my toolbox and use the passenger side tray I picked up over a year ago. (I re-routed my set of 2 AWG cables for portable rear winch hookup through a water drain hole to hook up to the battery for the time being). I'm either going to do the catch can or at least install one of those baby filters on it and leave the hose off the CAI. Routing those oil fumes into the air intake is great for the tree-huggers, but really sucks for the engine...
dont put one of those baby filters on the hose, if you do, you will be smelling the oil fume`s inside your cab.
I tried that trick on my previous 2010 hemi truck, stunk up the interior with oil smell very badly.
If you want a oil catch can, tons of them on ebay...CHEAP...! Or check out jegs dot com.
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LU-thats why I respect your opinion. I'm a gear head, took auto classes, but never went for ASE. changed fields to construction and my college degree. but I have lots of wrench experience from my old car, to motorcycles, my rams, and plenty of fixing random stuff. But I still dont have a clue compared to you and a few select guys on here.
aside from any technical aspects,
why the hell would you go mixing oils???
were talking about a 30-50,000 truck here, and you wanna be a cheap bastard and mix oils, spend 5 extra bucks to have the right $h!t in your truck. some of ya'll wanna just argue for the sake of arguing.
I mean your lawn mower, ok. weed-whacker, sure even some times I have to use diffferent oils with the gas because I'm out. but your truck!!!???
and as for the original thread, my oil psi is running at 48 at 2,200 rpms. pathetic
aside from any technical aspects,
why the hell would you go mixing oils???
were talking about a 30-50,000 truck here, and you wanna be a cheap bastard and mix oils, spend 5 extra bucks to have the right $h!t in your truck. some of ya'll wanna just argue for the sake of arguing.
I mean your lawn mower, ok. weed-whacker, sure even some times I have to use diffferent oils with the gas because I'm out. but your truck!!!???
and as for the original thread, my oil psi is running at 48 at 2,200 rpms. pathetic
Hey, you dont have MDS, why not try a slightly heavier oil (???)
Also just a thought, after a few miles, pull the dip stick and smell it, does it smell like gas...?
Last edited by LU229; Dec 6, 2011 at 10:11 AM.
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[quote=LU229;2661145]Thanks mdram, i agree with you. Sometimes i wish i was a mod or a administrator on these forums, i`d shut some people down.
With 40+yrs turnin wrench`s in dealerships and my own shop, i guess dosent meen much around here.
I try to give the best advice when i can just from my experiences, some people just wanna argue just for the sake of arguing.
Who died and put you in charge? Only your arrogance exceeds your ignorance! There is always one in every crowd. Scientific evidence is overwhelming against your "opinion", yet your refuse to acknowledge it.
With 40+yrs turnin wrench`s in dealerships and my own shop, i guess dosent meen much around here.
I try to give the best advice when i can just from my experiences, some people just wanna argue just for the sake of arguing.
Who died and put you in charge? Only your arrogance exceeds your ignorance! There is always one in every crowd. Scientific evidence is overwhelming against your "opinion", yet your refuse to acknowledge it.
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[QUOTE=Pedro Dog;2661306]
Well said Pedro Dog. But did you have to be so polite!
Thanks mdram, i agree with you. Sometimes i wish i was a mod or a administrator on these forums, i`d shut some people down.
With 40+yrs turnin wrench`s in dealerships and my own shop, i guess dosent meen much around here.
I try to give the best advice when i can just from my experiences, some people just wanna argue just for the sake of arguing.
Who died and put you in charge? Only your arrogance exceeds your ignorance! There is always one in every crowd. Scientific evidence is overwhelming against your "opinion", yet your refuse to acknowledge it.
With 40+yrs turnin wrench`s in dealerships and my own shop, i guess dosent meen much around here.
I try to give the best advice when i can just from my experiences, some people just wanna argue just for the sake of arguing.
Who died and put you in charge? Only your arrogance exceeds your ignorance! There is always one in every crowd. Scientific evidence is overwhelming against your "opinion", yet your refuse to acknowledge it.
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Here are the official information from the manufactures websites. These are their words, not mine
Castrol Synthetic - · Can be used with confidence in every gasoline engine passenger car, new or old, regardless of oil previously used
· Fully compatible with all conventional and synthetic oils
Valvoline full Synthetic-
Switching between synthetic and conventional oil does not cause problems. Because the oils are compatible, you can switch back and forth as often as you like. Mixing synthetic and conventional oils will not cause any problems. The oils are compatible with each other.
Mobil1-
Mobil 1 is fully compatible with conventional motor oils, semi-synthetic motor oils, and other synthetic motor oils, should it be necessary to mix them. But the superior performance of Mobil 1 will be reduced by diluting it.
AMSOIL-
AMSOIL motor oils can be mixed with other motor oil brands; however, mixing AMSOIL products with other brands may decrease the effectiveness of AMSOIL oils and compromise their extended drain capability. Mixing other oils with AMSOIL motor oils also may void the AMSOIL limited warranty.
REDLINE-
Red Line's products are compatible and will mix with other synthetics and petroleum products.
Castrol Synthetic - · Can be used with confidence in every gasoline engine passenger car, new or old, regardless of oil previously used
· Fully compatible with all conventional and synthetic oils
Valvoline full Synthetic-
Switching between synthetic and conventional oil does not cause problems. Because the oils are compatible, you can switch back and forth as often as you like. Mixing synthetic and conventional oils will not cause any problems. The oils are compatible with each other.
Mobil1-
Mobil 1 is fully compatible with conventional motor oils, semi-synthetic motor oils, and other synthetic motor oils, should it be necessary to mix them. But the superior performance of Mobil 1 will be reduced by diluting it.
AMSOIL-
AMSOIL motor oils can be mixed with other motor oil brands; however, mixing AMSOIL products with other brands may decrease the effectiveness of AMSOIL oils and compromise their extended drain capability. Mixing other oils with AMSOIL motor oils also may void the AMSOIL limited warranty.
REDLINE-
Red Line's products are compatible and will mix with other synthetics and petroleum products.
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Again, I'm not really against it, used to do it myself, not all the time, but if I had one or two quarts of something leftover in the garage and another brand was on sale, I'd mix them, till an engineer with an oil company advised me not to. I've never had an oil related problem in an engine, ever.
But, I have a Jeep service manual around here somewhere and I know it specifically says in the thing to NEVER mix oils or coolants in a Jeep product. Soooo who do you believe??? I just think it removes all doubt by using the same damn brand all the time.
It also says to use NO oil or coolant additives. I've used Purple Ice in my radiators for probably six or seven years now, it does bring engine running temps down 8-10*. My radiator in my Jeep just split at the seam, although EVERY Grand Cherokee owner loses his cheap a$$ plastic tub radiator between 80-120k miles anyway and I'm at 102k. I'm still debating when I replace my radiator this weekend if I'm gonna dump a bottle of Purple Ice in it or not.
But, I have a Jeep service manual around here somewhere and I know it specifically says in the thing to NEVER mix oils or coolants in a Jeep product. Soooo who do you believe??? I just think it removes all doubt by using the same damn brand all the time.
It also says to use NO oil or coolant additives. I've used Purple Ice in my radiators for probably six or seven years now, it does bring engine running temps down 8-10*. My radiator in my Jeep just split at the seam, although EVERY Grand Cherokee owner loses his cheap a$$ plastic tub radiator between 80-120k miles anyway and I'm at 102k. I'm still debating when I replace my radiator this weekend if I'm gonna dump a bottle of Purple Ice in it or not.
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AMSOIL-
Since we refuse to do any standardized testing/certification on our products you risk diluting the magic elf belly button lint that we use in all of our products. We strongly recommend that you not mix with any other products lest you incure the wrath of the magic product elves.
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Pedro Dog posts statements taken from the oil manufactures web site of their product and you’re working from memory of a book that you can’t find…. who do you really think everyone is going to go with…. Well I mean with the exception of LU and McDram