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Anyone else have defective wrangler hp's ?

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Old Nov 24, 2012 | 10:47 AM
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I upgraded to LT tires because I sometimes pull 5k+ trailers and could see that the P rated squated too much under load. With the P's you can shake the rear of your truck from side to side and see the sidewall flex and you can't see it with the LT's. I needed them when cornering with a trailer and heavy loads and they work fine for that. I could feel my P's give way to flex (sway) under load when cornering and I didn't like it. However, you loose the comfort of a P ride so those who like to drive fast and with more comfort I wouldn't go LT. My Goodyear LT's hold 80 lbs of air but I only run 45 and evrything koshsa there for me. Not many on here like Goodyear or have much good to say about them but I never had any problems out of mine. I don't know why they put P's on trucks these days, I thought I remember them coming with LT's in the old days but I guess I could be wrong. Not my fav tire, but they not too bad for stock...at least I don't think so.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2012 | 12:11 PM
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The P is for RIDE which is what these trucks are known for. I too pull 5000 or so lbs with mine. I just air the P tires up to 45 psi. If I had to go to a LT tire I just as soon get a 2500 and that I don't want.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by hounddogg
The P is for RIDE which is what these trucks are known for. I too pull 5000 or so lbs with mine. I just air the P tires up to 45 psi. If I had to go to a LT tire I just as soon get a 2500 and that I don't want.
No pun intended, but adding a little air doesn't amount to anything with an over loaded tongue. If you want to add or lower air pressure to suit your needs that's your business. I try to use the correct tire for the correct aplication as best as I can. I use LT's for over working my trucks, snow tires for snow, and I've used all terrain tires for four wheeling. This thread was about the quality of Goodyear and I've used both GY P's and LT's and haven't seen any problems with either and shared my opinion. I'm no tire specialist, but you have to use the correct tire for the correct application. You choose to have the best of both worlds, I choose the correct tire over comfort. And I don't agree with these trucks being known for their ride. I feel different, they're no better than the rest. I bought mine because it's fast and it looks good. I didn't take it for a comfort ride when I bought it, I took it for a ride down the 1320 or close to it.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 08:51 AM
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I pulll a fifth wheel. My 'tonque' is not overloaded. Hooked up I still have a decent amount of spring/suspinsion travel. I might even take those rear tires to 50psi. But I won't put a LT tire on it.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by hounddogg
I pulll a fifth wheel. My 'tonque' is not overloaded. Hooked up I still have a decent amount of spring/suspinsion travel. I might even take those rear tires to 50psi. But I won't put a LT tire on it.
Lol... if you have a blowout and your truck flips and rolls over I bet you won't tell the tire company that when you file your law suit.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 09:17 AM
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I am under loaded weight and tow weight. The truck/trailer handle just fine as they are. That's what I care about. I've pulled over 5000 miles and no issues with rear tires aired to 41 psi cold. IF I did anything it would be to go to 17 inch tire/wheel. But I'm not going to a LT and ruin the ride unloaded which is how the truck normally is and one reason I picked a RAM over the other two.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 09:42 AM
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P vs LT - doesn't really matter, what matters is the load rating on the tire. My P Rated tires are rated at 2535 lbs. The closes LT tires of the same brand model are rated at 2500 lbs.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by oldjeep
P vs LT - doesn't really matter, what matters is the load rating on the tire. My P Rated tires are rated at 2535 lbs. The closes LT tires of the same brand model are rated at 2500 lbs.
So you're saying you have P rated tires with an E load range, correct? I've heard of such tires for off road purposes but I didn't go that route fearing the noise they make. I have LT load rating E and I don't remember the weight without looking but they are 10 ply and quiet. I also get trash scooped out of my trailers by a large excavater and you should see what that thing does to my truck. When it lays the bucket down to scoop out the trash it smashes my truck to the ground. And then it drags it back and forth like a rag doll as it's dragging and pushing the trash out. It's pretty sickening watching my truck get beat up like that. Once you see what your great C rated tires go through at these dumps you won't hesitate swapping them out for some E rated rubber.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 1954Radio
So you're saying you have P rated tires with an E load range, correct? I've heard of such tires for off road purposes but I didn't go that route fearing the noise they make. I have LT load rating E and I don't remember the weight without looking but they are 10 ply and quiet. I also get trash scooped out of my trailers by a large excavater and you should see what that thing does to my truck. When it lays the bucket down to scoop out the trash it smashes my truck to the ground. And then it drags it back and forth like a rag doll as it's dragging and pushing the trash out. It's pretty sickening watching my truck get beat up like that. Once you see what your great C rated tires go through at these dumps you won't hesitate swapping them out for some E rated rubber.
Putting E rated tires on your 1/2 ton does not increase your capacity - it just reinforces that you should have bought a 3/4 ton

2500 lbs is a C rating on an LT

My tires are Firestone destination AT in the stock 265/70/17 size which have a 113 load index (2535 lbs)
 
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 05:19 PM
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A 17 in lt 265 70 17 10 ply tire is not going to turn a 1500 ram with car coils into a 3/4 ton, but you get a longer lasting tire than any P rated, loaded to the max, more expensive to replace 20 in P rated tire...

In most applications, I will agree you don't need LT tires for what a typical Ram owner puts thier truck threw, but if your like the majority of light truck owners who brag abought the loads they carry, and the whight they tow and how awsomely under rated a 1500 is, it makes sense to me to run a LT tire, yup ride quality suffers a bit, but its not like your car riding truck is transformend into a 1880s lumber wagon running C. D E, LT tires.

Some agree P rated tires are fine, some like me say LT tires are better, its a conversion that is based upon application and use of your truck..

Goodyear wranger HP, not a good tire, most premium tire brands also offer entry level p rated ruber that are = to the wranger HP ...
 
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