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Cold engine tap/knock

Old Oct 31, 2013 | 10:55 PM
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So I can hear it in the morning or after pu has been sitting and engine cools off. Is this an exhaust manifold bolt issue? I think I saw a thread about this a while back on this site. Is this an issue the dealer will take care of or is it a DIY. Which bolt is the one that breaks on the hemi ?
 
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Old Nov 1, 2013 | 05:02 PM
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take it to the dealer , should be covered under lifetime power train warranty
 
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Rickram
So I can hear it in the morning or after pu has been sitting and engine cools off. Is this an exhaust manifold bolt issue? I think I saw a thread about this a while back on this site. Is this an issue the dealer will take care of or is it a DIY. Which bolt is the one that breaks on the hemi ?
This just happened to me. I took it in and they had to replace a cylinder head as the stud broke off and they couldn't get it out.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2013 | 12:15 PM
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If it is loud upon cold start and then gets quieter as it warms up it is likely a broken exhaust manifold stud/bolt. As noted, it should be covered under warranty unless you have a ton of miles.

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Old Nov 9, 2013 | 11:57 PM
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This bulletin is supplied as technical information only and is not an authorization for repair. SUBJECT:
Engine Ticking Sound In Cold Temperatures
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves replace the exhaust manifold bolts for cylinders 7 and 8 with new
stainless steel higher strength bolts.
MODELS:
2009 (DS) Ram 1500 Pickup
NOTE: This bulletin applies to vehicles equipped with a 5.7L engine (Sales code EZD
or EZH) built before August 14, 2009 (MDH 0814XX).
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
Some Customers may notice a ticking sound heard at start-up in cold ambient
temperatures. This sound could be less noticeable as the engine warms to normal
operating temperature. This condition may be caused by broken or loose exhaust manifold
bolts for cylinders 7 and 8.
DIAGNOSIS:
If customers complain of the symptom/condition, perform the following repair procedure.
PARTS REQUIRED:
Qty. Part No. Description
4 06509544AA Stud, Exhaust Manifold (7 & 8 cylinders)
AR (9) 06507746AA Bolt, Exhaust Manifold (only necessary if
exhaust manifolds are removed)
AR (1) 53032965AF Gasket, Left Exhaust Manifold (only
necessary if exhaust manifolds are removed)
AR (1) 53032966AF Gasket, Right Exhaust Manifold (only
necessary if exhaust manifolds are removed)
NUMBER: 11-002-11
GROUP: Exhaust System
DATE: February 17, 2011
REPAIR PROCEDURE:
1. Raise vehicle on a hoist.
2. Remove the exhaust manifold heat shields from both sides.
NOTE: The exhaust manifold bolts may be broken. If possible use vise grips to
attempt removal without removing the exhaust manifold.
3. Remove exhaust manifold bolts on cylinder 7.
4. Can bolts be removed without removing exhaust manifold?
a. Yes >>> Replace exhaust manifold bolts (2 only) torque to 25 Nm (18 Ft. Lbs.),
install heat shield, torque to 8 Nm (70 In. Lbs.) and proceed to Step #5
b. No >>> Remove exhaust manifold remove and replace all bolts, replace exhaust
manifold gasket. Follow the detailed service procedures available in
DealerCONNECT/TechCONNECT, Refer To Group 9 - Engine > Manifolds >
Manifold, Exhaust, Installation procedures. Proceed to Step #5
5. Remove exhaust manifold bolts on cylinder 8.
6. Can bolts be removed without removing exhaust manifold?
a. Yes >>> Replace exhaust manifold bolts (2 only) torque to 25 Nm (18 Ft. Lbs.),
install heat shield, torque to 8 Nm (70 In. Lbs.).
b. No >>> Remove exhaust manifold remove and replace all bolts, replace exhaust
manifold gasket. Follow the detailed service procedures available in
DealerCONNECT/TechCONNECT, Refer To Group 9 - Engine > Manifolds >
Manifold, Exhaust, Installation procedures.
POLICY:
Reimbursable within the provisions of the warranty.
TIME ALLOWANCE:
Labor Operation
No:
Description Amount
09-45-01-94 Exhaust Manifold Bolts Cylinder 7 and 8 Replace
(B)
1.3 Hrs.
09-45-01-97 Exhaust Manifold Bolts Cylinder 7 Replace /
Broken Exhaust Manifold Bolts Cylinder 8 (B)
1.9 Hrs.
09-45-01-98 Exhaust Manifold Bolts Cylinder 8 Replace /
Broken Exhaust Manifold Bolts Cylinder 7 (B)
1.9 Hrs.
09-45-01-99 Exhaust Manifold Bolts Broken Exhaust Manifold
Bolts Cylinder 7 and 8 (B)
2.4 Hrs.
FAILURE CODE:
 
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Old Dec 2, 2013 | 11:23 PM
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Hello everyone I have a 2012 ram st that has the same problem loud upon cold start and then gets quieter as it warms up. Now could this be my problem also broken bolts? I bought my truck used with 19K miles Now it has 25K what is the warranty on these trucks? this is my first Hemi. Also I installed a S&B CAI would this void my warranty. If i still Have warranty lol
 
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Old Dec 3, 2013 | 09:14 AM
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It should be under warranty yet. Bring it to the dealer and have them check it. I have no idea whether the CAI will be a problem.

Rob
 
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