Might be needing AirBags in the back.
Here is my trailer specs
Dry Weight 6,590 lbs.
Cargo Carrying Capacity (CCC) 1,410 lbs.
Hitch Weight 690 lbs.
I assume that hitch weight is not including the dual 30lb LP tanks / battery and electic jack. I assume that probably brings me closer to 800LBS hitch weight.
It's loaded per trailer best practices, which is to have about 10% of the total weight on the tongue, and that is at LEAST 11K total weight. The whole skidsteer is at or ahead of the rear axle with nothing behind that axle. The brush mower weighs about 1500# and that is entirely in front. It is a heck of a lot of weight on the tongue.
From the pic you posted of your truck it looks pretty level. I wouldn't worry about that, though you may want to adjust your headlights down a bit if you tow after dark. In any event, if you want airbags then get airbags. Just don't by cheap ones or you'll hate it.
Rob
From the pic you posted of your truck it looks pretty level. I wouldn't worry about that, though you may want to adjust your headlights down a bit if you tow after dark. In any event, if you want airbags then get airbags. Just don't by cheap ones or you'll hate it.
Rob
here is a dumb question, but if if the truck is sagging and the camper is not would that cause the camper to tilt backwards to bring the truck up? I always had a lite camper so it was never an issues?
Just wondering what might be the issue? Shank is to low? Maybe the shank is OK but the bars are to low on the bracket?
Just wondering what might be the issue? Shank is to low? Maybe the shank is OK but the bars are to low on the bracket?
Rob
Correct but in your picture your mass weight is almost 90% over your tires as you are not squatting, when I DONT have my bars on the camper but just on the ball its squats big time. ON my camper its kinda spread out more.
Here is my trailer specs
Dry Weight 6,590 lbs.
Cargo Carrying Capacity (CCC) 1,410 lbs.
Hitch Weight 690 lbs.
I assume that hitch weight is not including the dual 30lb LP tanks / battery and electic jack. I assume that probably brings me closer to 800LBS hitch weight.
Here is my trailer specs
Dry Weight 6,590 lbs.
Cargo Carrying Capacity (CCC) 1,410 lbs.
Hitch Weight 690 lbs.
I assume that hitch weight is not including the dual 30lb LP tanks / battery and electic jack. I assume that probably brings me closer to 800LBS hitch weight.
Unfortunately trailer "specs" mean nothing. Get the thing loaded up like you are going to use it and then weigh it. You'll need a scale pad for tongue weight so that you can get the true weights. Trailer/boat mfg are notorious for listing weights lower than reality.
What kit did you have on your truck? I was unable to find any kits for 4th Gen 1500 Ram's other then the type that mount in the coil springs (which i bought for this truck). All the axle tube mounted air bag kits are for 2500 series and up.
I had the Firestone bags (in a Helwig kit) on my 06' for years never had any issues whatsoever. After hauling a load i would typically leave 12 PSI in them and a month later it still showed the same pressure. And to date i have not heard of in person or seen a thread on airbags complaining about the quality control or durability of Firestone Bags. In fact, on Auto Anything's site they have 430 reviews of them with the vast majority being 5 stars, Only 4 total reviews were less then 3 stars.
What kit did you have on your truck? I was unable to find any kits for 4th Gen 1500 Ram's other then the type that mount in the coil springs (which i bought for this truck). All the axle tube mounted air bag kits are for 2500 series and up.
What kit did you have on your truck? I was unable to find any kits for 4th Gen 1500 Ram's other then the type that mount in the coil springs (which i bought for this truck). All the axle tube mounted air bag kits are for 2500 series and up.
It was their fairly inexpensive kit of bags that mounted inside the springs. I think it cost $50 or $75 originally. The blue plastic bags, not black rubber ones. Right from the start they failed to hold air for more than a few days. Replaced the lines and the problem persisted. Some months later they wouldn't even air up and I found one of them had cracked around the top of the bag (at the circular point where the air valve's reinforced part of the plastic met the thinner plastic). Firestone replaced the one bag under warranty. Some months another bag failed in the same way. This time they replaced the whole set. Still wouldn't hold air so I pulled them out and ditched them. Not worth my time. Especially since I've pulled heavy trailers (the above skid steer or similar and an 8500# enclosed sled trailer) and the truck never squats below about level.
Rob
Make it two that have had issues with the firestone bags. I also bought the blue, inside the spring kind (ride rites). Mine have had leaks on and off that I think are due to the fact that I only leave about 8 lbs of air when not loaded up. Usually I have to pull out the blue air line out of the bag, make a new cut, re-insert and air up again. The problem is that the leak can happen when you are on the road then the truck sits uneven side to side.
One thing to consider with the tongue weight is not only the trailer weight but the hitch itself can weight up to 80 or more lbs. I use an adjustable shank that juts out pretty far and that adds to the lever effect on the rear suspension. I had 900 lbs or stone on my truck bed and it didn't squat as much as it does with the 400 lbs of tongue weigh of my TT. The difference was that the stone was distributed over and to the front of the axle vs the travel trailer tongue weight being about a foot behind the bumper.
Just play with the settings and you should be alright. Make one adjustment at a time.
One thing to consider with the tongue weight is not only the trailer weight but the hitch itself can weight up to 80 or more lbs. I use an adjustable shank that juts out pretty far and that adds to the lever effect on the rear suspension. I had 900 lbs or stone on my truck bed and it didn't squat as much as it does with the 400 lbs of tongue weigh of my TT. The difference was that the stone was distributed over and to the front of the axle vs the travel trailer tongue weight being about a foot behind the bumper.
Just play with the settings and you should be alright. Make one adjustment at a time.
I installed an Air Lift inside the coil kit earlier this year on my new truck. So far it has been great with not issues at all. The bags are red, not blue. No clue if Air Lift makes them or they are made by an outside source but the quality and ease of install as well as price makes them great for me so far.
The fact that they cost me about $80 for the complete kit and that the install of the bags themselves took me all of 10 minutes means if they last me a few years and then need replacing ill be OK with that.
The fact that they cost me about $80 for the complete kit and that the install of the bags themselves took me all of 10 minutes means if they last me a few years and then need replacing ill be OK with that.
I also installed an Air Lift inside the coil kit earlier this year on my new truck at the same time I lowered it 2" installed a LPW diff cover, Spon Adjustable track bar. Love it.
Tow my trailered Bronco a or RV trailer no problems. Have gone to Moab and back no problems. So far it has been great with not issues at all. The bags are red, not blue. Routed the lines with in the chassis
The fact that they cost me about $80 on Ebay for the complete kit .
Tow my trailered Bronco a or RV trailer no problems. Have gone to Moab and back no problems. So far it has been great with not issues at all. The bags are red, not blue. Routed the lines with in the chassis
The fact that they cost me about $80 on Ebay for the complete kit .



