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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 02:24 AM
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the engine won't fit the dakota because of the frame. if the frame was only big enough the dakota could hold the engine.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 03:30 AM
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Yeah, the 5.7 or any SRT version would sell well, the Dakota R/T's with the 5.9 were great trucks and were so hard to get ahold of, I owned one before I got my Magnum, I wouldn't even consider the current Dakota R/T though as the 4.7 even in the HO trim isn't a good motor, it's really no better on fuel economy over the 5.7 with MDS and it has so much less power than the 5.7, dodge pushing the fact that the dakota is the only midsize with a V8 is basicaly a joke at this point, sure it is true, but the 4.7 is junk and all the competitors V6's put out around the same hp as it does.

The 4.7 is not "junk". The 4.7 puts out far more torque than those v6's you refer to. And torque is more important than horsepower. You wanna scoot, you need both high torque and horsepower.

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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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it really doesn't even put out that much more torque, for example.

Nissan Frontier 4.0 V6: 265hp 284lb.-ft

Dodge Dakota 4.7 V8: 230hp 290lb.-ft

only 6 lb.-ft more torque and 35 less hp.

now the HO does push it a bit further ahead at 260hp & 310lb.-ft of torque, but still not a huge difference, and compaired to the rest of the dodge lineup it is junk, the 5.7 has a lot more hp and torque and has a better fuel economy, in the grand cherokee for example it's 14/20 for the 4.7 vs. 14/21 for the 5.7, and on top of all that the 4.7 costs more to build, the engine should just be scrapped and replaced with the 5.7, there's no reason to even offer it at all.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 06:13 PM
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Ummm LOTS of people would want one.
That's not being realistic. Sales aren't going to skyrocket if the 6.1 goes into it. It's just like the Crossfire SRT-6... so it has the SRT motor in it...and Chrysler can't give them away! Same with all other vehicles with the SRT available. The base model will always out sell the SRT model. Anyways, the 4.7 is already a lot of power and sales aren't that good. If people want a 30,000 Dodge truck, they're going to buy the Ram with the Hemi in it.

Another reason why Dodge doesn't need it....when there's this for it:

https://dodgeforum.com/m_363251/tm.htm


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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 06:35 PM
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If people want a 30,000 Dodge truck, they're going to buy the Ram with the Hemi in it.
Not if they want performance truck they won't which is what anyone wanting an SRT dakota or even a hemi dakota want, the Hemi ram is is a pretty slow truck as it's not setup with perfomance, 1/4 mile is only mid 16's, a dakota on the other hand with with even just the 5.7 would probably be in the mid 14's, with the 6.1 it would be in the low 13's, that's what people want who want a 30k sports pickup truck.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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Ummm LOTS of people would want one.
That's not being realistic. Sales aren't going to skyrocket if the 6.1 goes into it. It's just like the Crossfire SRT-6... so it has the SRT motor in it...and Chrysler can't give them away! Same with all other vehicles with the SRT available. The base model will always out sell the SRT model. Anyways, the 4.7 is already a lot of power and sales aren't that good. If people want a 30,000 Dodge truck, they're going to buy the Ram with the Hemi in it.

Another reason why Dodge doesn't need it....when there's this for it:

https://dodgeforum.com/m_363251/tm.htm
I disagree. I think people would jump all over it. A light, small truck with 425 horses? That would take the crown from the Ram SRT-10... But, that's the thing, it would draw away from Ram SRT-10 sales. And this 6.1L would not fit in the Dakota anyway...

I think the Dakota SRT-8 should be a supercharged 4.7L... stock...
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 08:14 PM
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Ummm LOTS of people would want one.
That's not being realistic. Sales aren't going to skyrocket if the 6.1 goes into it. It's just like the Crossfire SRT-6... so it has the SRT motor in it...and Chrysler can't give them away! Same with all other vehicles with the SRT available. The base model will always out sell the SRT model. Anyways, the 4.7 is already a lot of power and sales aren't that good. If people want a 30,000 Dodge truck, they're going to buy the Ram with the Hemi in it.

Another reason why Dodge doesn't need it....when there's this for it:

https://dodgeforum.com/m_363251/tm.htm


-Matt-

no, lots of people would want one, yes the base model will outsell the srts, but the srt's are priceyer and still sell

if your spending 30k on a truck who says youre gonna get a hemi ram its not a performance truck, the dakota would be, and quite a few people would want that performance aspect

n/a is better than blown, its more reliable and cheaper, plus if you have a high powered n/a and want more power you can always add a blower, but if you want more power out of a blown engine theres only so much you can do
 
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 03:36 PM
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no, lots of people would want one, yes the base model will outsell the srts, but the srt's are priceyer and still sell
It doesn't matter if they sell, it's about profit. If the base model isn't gathering that much profit already, the SRT model is going to be a set back or possibly a loss.

A light, small truck with 425 horses?
A $30,000 truck. The average person isn't looking for a performance truck that can beat a sports car. If people want a sports car, they're most likely going to get a sedan which is popular now.


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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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A $30,000 truck. The average person isn't looking for a performance truck that can beat a sports car. If people want a sports car, they're most likely going to get a sedan which is popular now.
The average person isn't looking at an SRT at all, and the people who are looking for SRT vehicles do want all different types of vehicles and the SRT line up shows that, there's an SRT SUV, a full size pickup, a station wagon, two sedans, two coupe, and one cross platform vehicle, and arguably the people who do want a sport pickup want them in a midsize truck not a full size which they already have, a 30-35k SRT-8 dakota with the 6.1 would far outsell the SRT-10 ram I would bet, and the ram is doing well enough that they still make it and added the quad cab to the lineup as well.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 12:41 AM
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a 30-35k SRT-8 dakota with the 6.1 would far outsell the SRT-10 ram I would bet, and the ram is doing well enough that they still make it and added the quad cab to the lineup as well.
Yep, I agree...

Matt - I don't see why you think this. There have been numerous people here at DF that say they would LOVE to have one...
 
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