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if you want to get ****, lubricate your surface and glide your hand across the paint with your bare hand. you will feel a little, but you wont feel a whole lot. now, put on some rubber gloves (or stick your hand in a plastic bag like from walmart) and glide your hand over the lubricated area you just felt with your bare hand. now you will feel all the rough bumps in the paint. these are imperfections and things such as dirt, which are embedded into your paint, but are so small, it cant be seen with the naked eye, and washing and waxing your paint wont take these out....clay bar that section for a few minutes, and then feel it again with the rubber gloves on (or plastic bag) and you will notice a HUGE differance than before you clay barred.
just a little tip for you **** guys that have to have things perfect...
also, another tip, cut your claybar in half before use. if you drop the bar on the ground, IT IS TRASH!!!!!!! do not reuse it! thats why you cut it in half first, you will have your other have to use if you drop a chunk
just a little tip for you **** guys that have to have things perfect...
also, another tip, cut your claybar in half before use. if you drop the bar on the ground, IT IS TRASH!!!!!!! do not reuse it! thats why you cut it in half first, you will have your other have to use if you drop a chunk
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ORIGINAL: lblackneon
A clay bar is a clay bar. They remove oxidation. After using the clay bar, some good wax is next on the list. I always use a clay bar when I wax my cars.
A clay bar is a clay bar. They remove oxidation. After using the clay bar, some good wax is next on the list. I always use a clay bar when I wax my cars.
See "oxidation" in dictionary, the breaking apart of the molecular bond, etc, etc.
A clay is not agressive enough to do so.
You may wipe an "oil" type product on the surface to create an optical illusion of removing oxidations, but once the oils evaporate, the condition is still evident. (I.E, think of women's make-up)
There are two ways to remove oxidation short of sanding and repainting.
One is to "chemically" remove the majority and then do a light polishing with a rotary buffer, correct pad, product.
or
Two, use an agressive compound, cutting pad and abrade it from the surface, followed by polishing with a correct polishing pad and polishing product.
Claybars remove pollution on the surface like i previousely stated, not oxidation.
Also, liquid claybars suck imo, but if you dont have a lot of time to devote, it is better than nothing, but should not be used as a complete replacement of regular claybars.
"a clay bar is a clay bar"...that is false. some brands are clearly better than others, but most of them are pretty decent. for the average person, i would recommend the meguiars or 3m kit.
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ORIGINAL: djr04
I've never used the mother's brand clay bar, but I would imagine it would be like any other clay bar. The clay bars I've used require a lubricant to be sprayed down (I usually used a quick detailer spray) and then you rub the clay bar back and forth over the surface. If it becomes difficult to rub back and forth, add more lubricant. Clay bars are great for removing that rough, sand paper feel that sometimes gets on the paint. Depending on how rough your paint is, the time will vary. I would say 30 min to an hour for an average job. Don't drop it though, if it hits the dirty ground it is no longer useable; any crap on the ground could end up stuck to the clay bar and get rubbed into your paint.
I've never used the mother's brand clay bar, but I would imagine it would be like any other clay bar. The clay bars I've used require a lubricant to be sprayed down (I usually used a quick detailer spray) and then you rub the clay bar back and forth over the surface. If it becomes difficult to rub back and forth, add more lubricant. Clay bars are great for removing that rough, sand paper feel that sometimes gets on the paint. Depending on how rough your paint is, the time will vary. I would say 30 min to an hour for an average job. Don't drop it though, if it hits the dirty ground it is no longer useable; any crap on the ground could end up stuck to the clay bar and get rubbed into your paint.
I usually use dawn soap for the first wash as it helps to remove crud. Never use dawn after you've reapplied wax however as it can also strip the wax.
I personally use zaino. I find their products to be godly, although a bit expensive. They have a how-to tutorial on their site here: http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/...de=APPLICATION
I only got my truck a few weeks ago but when I claybarred my mustang and cleaned the interior, it took me an entire day. Of course, I'm a fanatic who has to get everything perfect. It depends on how **** you are.
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ORIGINAL: snooj
Claying should take much more than 30 minutes. You should wash your truck, clay bar it, wash it again, then apply polish and/or wax afterward as claybar can remove wax. If you can do that in 30 minutes, you'll get a cookie.
I usually use dawn soap for the first wash as it helps to remove crud. Never use dawn after you've reapplied wax however as it can also strip the wax.
I personally use zaino. I find their products to be godly, although a bit expensive. They have a how-to tutorial on their site here: http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/...de=APPLICATION
I only got my truck a few weeks ago but when I claybarred my mustang and cleaned the interior, it took me an entire day. Of course, I'm a fanatic who has to get everything perfect. It depends on how **** you are.
ORIGINAL: djr04
I've never used the mother's brand clay bar, but I would imagine it would be like any other clay bar. The clay bars I've used require a lubricant to be sprayed down (I usually used a quick detailer spray) and then you rub the clay bar back and forth over the surface. If it becomes difficult to rub back and forth, add more lubricant. Clay bars are great for removing that rough, sand paper feel that sometimes gets on the paint. Depending on how rough your paint is, the time will vary. I would say 30 min to an hour for an average job. Don't drop it though, if it hits the dirty ground it is no longer useable; any crap on the ground could end up stuck to the clay bar and get rubbed into your paint.
I've never used the mother's brand clay bar, but I would imagine it would be like any other clay bar. The clay bars I've used require a lubricant to be sprayed down (I usually used a quick detailer spray) and then you rub the clay bar back and forth over the surface. If it becomes difficult to rub back and forth, add more lubricant. Clay bars are great for removing that rough, sand paper feel that sometimes gets on the paint. Depending on how rough your paint is, the time will vary. I would say 30 min to an hour for an average job. Don't drop it though, if it hits the dirty ground it is no longer useable; any crap on the ground could end up stuck to the clay bar and get rubbed into your paint.
I usually use dawn soap for the first wash as it helps to remove crud. Never use dawn after you've reapplied wax however as it can also strip the wax.
I personally use zaino. I find their products to be godly, although a bit expensive. They have a how-to tutorial on their site here: http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/...de=APPLICATION
I only got my truck a few weeks ago but when I claybarred my mustang and cleaned the interior, it took me an entire day. Of course, I'm a fanatic who has to get everything perfect. It depends on how **** you are.
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I for one have used the Mothers Clay Bar kit available at any automotive shop. It worked well on my Dakota, allowing me to get my truck smooth enough that if i sat on the hood I would literally slide off. Yet, that was after applying Meguairs Gold Class Wax, too.
Personally, I would reccommend the Mothers Clay Bar Kit, but I am also a strong believer in the Meguairs brand as well. I reccommend sticking with whatever brand wax and/or other detailing products you use. They generally compliment each other well if it's a good brand.
Personally, I would reccommend the Mothers Clay Bar Kit, but I am also a strong believer in the Meguairs brand as well. I reccommend sticking with whatever brand wax and/or other detailing products you use. They generally compliment each other well if it's a good brand.
