Caliber gas mileage
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RE: Caliber gas mileage
I can't believe everyone is thinking the gas mileage is even good. My original '95 neon with the 2.0 SOHC got 38 or better miles per gallon on the highway (strangely, up till about 80 mph, the faster you went, the better the gas mileage). My '98 Neon with 2.0 DOHC got 42 mpg or better on the highway. Sadly, I consider 32 mpg to be a little pathetic. Give me a big overdrive gear. I don't mind downshifting to pass someone.
Just my opinion, I could be wrong. [&:]
Just my opinion, I could be wrong. [&:]
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RE: Caliber gas mileage
ORIGINAL: sschnelker
I can't believe everyone is thinking the gas mileage is even good. My original '95 neon with the 2.0 SOHC got 38 or better miles per gallon on the highway (strangely, up till about 80 mph, the faster you went, the better the gas mileage). My '98 Neon with 2.0 DOHC got 42 mpg or better on the highway. Sadly, I consider 32 mpg to be a little pathetic. Give me a big overdrive gear. I don't mind downshifting to pass someone.
I can't believe everyone is thinking the gas mileage is even good. My original '95 neon with the 2.0 SOHC got 38 or better miles per gallon on the highway (strangely, up till about 80 mph, the faster you went, the better the gas mileage). My '98 Neon with 2.0 DOHC got 42 mpg or better on the highway. Sadly, I consider 32 mpg to be a little pathetic. Give me a big overdrive gear. I don't mind downshifting to pass someone.
These cars keep growing on me more and more. I think I know what my graduation present to myself is going to be. [8D]
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ORIGINAL: 04StratusR/T
And they don't blow headgaskets! [sm=coolness.gif]
And they don't blow headgaskets! [sm=coolness.gif]
In the Caravan, they released the 4 speed auto. They were blowing left and right. At $2500 to $3200 per pop, they escaped a recall by promising the gov't they'd extend the warrant to 70K.
Speaking of trannies... what of the belts in the new tranny? Does the new owner's manual tell you when you have to take it in for belt replacement? The tranny was rejected by a couple companies in the past to avoid frequent tranny overhauls (broken belts). Has this been fixed? Belts of this sort usually fail in 40K, but perhaps that's been extended. (Timing belts were originally rejected for reliability due to early failure... now they last 60K+. Belt drive is quieter and cheaper to install... but MC belt failure is still 25K.) Are these belts available through 2nd market sources, or are they at dealer only pricing? (Some GM diesels had $32 oil filters and $67 air filter pricing originally... instead of $4 and $12 in later years... and I got caught in that.)
With a new engine and tranny design, one never knows.
Of course, a new body design should always be avoided, until it's been given a few years of testing. Even before the car came out, an error in body design caused leaks in the rear hatch. The gasket was replaced... but one knows how gaskets work.
So... one shouldn't gloat about another car in the same product line failed in its early years. It might well come back on one. (Dodge isn't traditionally known for excellence and perfection in their first-off product line.)
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ORIGINAL: mperry
Actually, the late model Neon doesn't, either... and you don't know. It's a new engine & Dodge has an interestingly untested new product release record.
In the Caravan, they released the 4 speed auto. They were blowing left and right. At $2500 to $3200 per pop, they escaped a recall by promising the gov't they'd extend the warrant to 70K.
Speaking of trannies... what of the belts in the new tranny? Does the new owner's manual tell you when you have to take it in for belt replacement? The tranny was rejected by a couple companies in the past to avoid frequent tranny overhauls (broken belts). Has this been fixed? Belts of this sort usually fail in 40K, but perhaps that's been extended. (Timing belts were originally rejected for reliability due to early failure... now they last 60K+. Belt drive is quieter and cheaper to install... but MC belt failure is still 25K.) Are these belts available through 2nd market sources, or are they at dealer only pricing? (Some GM diesels had $32 oil filters and $67 air filter pricing originally... instead of $4 and $12 in later years... and I got caught in that.)
With a new engine and tranny design, one never knows.
Of course, a new body design should always be avoided, until it's been given a few years of testing. Even before the car came out, an error in body design caused leaks in the rear hatch. The gasket was replaced... but one knows how gaskets work.
So... one shouldn't gloat about another car in the same product line failed in its early years. It might well come back on one. (Dodge isn't traditionally known for excellence and perfection in their first-off product line.)
ORIGINAL: 04StratusR/T
And they don't blow headgaskets! [sm=coolness.gif]
And they don't blow headgaskets! [sm=coolness.gif]
In the Caravan, they released the 4 speed auto. They were blowing left and right. At $2500 to $3200 per pop, they escaped a recall by promising the gov't they'd extend the warrant to 70K.
Speaking of trannies... what of the belts in the new tranny? Does the new owner's manual tell you when you have to take it in for belt replacement? The tranny was rejected by a couple companies in the past to avoid frequent tranny overhauls (broken belts). Has this been fixed? Belts of this sort usually fail in 40K, but perhaps that's been extended. (Timing belts were originally rejected for reliability due to early failure... now they last 60K+. Belt drive is quieter and cheaper to install... but MC belt failure is still 25K.) Are these belts available through 2nd market sources, or are they at dealer only pricing? (Some GM diesels had $32 oil filters and $67 air filter pricing originally... instead of $4 and $12 in later years... and I got caught in that.)
With a new engine and tranny design, one never knows.
Of course, a new body design should always be avoided, until it's been given a few years of testing. Even before the car came out, an error in body design caused leaks in the rear hatch. The gasket was replaced... but one knows how gaskets work.
So... one shouldn't gloat about another car in the same product line failed in its early years. It might well come back on one. (Dodge isn't traditionally known for excellence and perfection in their first-off product line.)
Here you will find a lot of links and basic info on CVT's.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continu...e_transmission
Besides, anyone can tell you that a standard transmission is far from guarenteed reliable...
It also is not a new tranny design. It was made by a company from Japan I believe it is, that also make the CVT's for Nissan. They have been doing it for a few years now. The reason it is called a CVT2 is because it is a build up from the CVT offered in Nissan vehicles. It offers new options like the Auto-stick and improves gas mileage over the standard CVT. It isnt a whole new design, just an improvement, like going from a 4 speed to a 5 or 6 speed.
Also, it was a problem with the gaskets that were used, not the body design. The gaskets were not sealing properly with the gaps in the rear hatch, and before you say anything, saying gaps does not mean its a defect, there are always gaps with doors and the seals were shown to not be good enough for the gap that the car has for the rear. They fixed it prior to major production and I dont even see how thats an issue, things like that happen all the time.
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ORIGINAL: nickoman01
my grandpa did transmission work at ford on plymouth rd and retired in 1983 and they were working on CVT back then.
my grandpa did transmission work at ford on plymouth rd and retired in 1983 and they were working on CVT back then.
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RE: Caliber gas mileage
Humm...400+ lbs of stereo equipment and still got over 40 on the highway...I just think they don't put in a high enough overdrive for doing 70+ on the highway anymore...I really don't mind downshifting to pass someone if it gets me better gas millage...
just my opinion, i could be wrong...
srs
just my opinion, i could be wrong...
srs