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Old Sep 4, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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96 Caravan 3.8L - sometimes when I brake, the transmission will go into limp mode. This usually happens when I do a hard stop (like somebody pulls out in front of me and I have to slam on the brakes). Once I slow down, I notice the tranny is in safe mode and I have to pull over, shut the engine off and restart it. Then it works ok until the next panic stop days/weeks later. Any ideas? Thanks!
 
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 11:34 PM
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You need to pull codes out of the TCM and post.Most of the time transmission don't go into limp in when braking. There maybe something else going on. I need codes to help you out.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 01:04 PM
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OK, I'll pull the codes - how do I do that? I've got a Haynes manual, I'll check that tonight to see if it has info on pulling codes.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 10:41 PM
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You'll need a scanner.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 10:17 AM
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OK, I'll stop by a parts store to get/borrow one, in the meantime, before I read your reply I checked the Haynes manual and tried the ignition key method - I was able to get the following numbers, although from the manual it looks like some numbers can refer to multiple problems and one of mine wasn't listed:
123155
From my Haynes manual, I take that to be 12,31,55?
12 - Battery recently disconnected within the last 50 starts - That makes sense as I recently disconnected the neg term to clear the memory.
31 ? Haynes explanation wasn't really clear to me.
55 ? no listing.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 10:27 AM
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12 battery disconnect, 31 engine coolant temp sensor volts too high, and 55 end of test. Thats codes just in the PCM, you need to pull codes out of the TCM.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 01:19 AM
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You probably have internal clutch seals leaking.
Did it ever give you a harsh down shift when slowing down or stopping?
They changed up the seal design to fix this problem.

Bad news is your looking at a rebuild to repair properly.

You did check the fluid level and condition first, RIGHT?
 
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 02:23 PM
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I changed the fluid and filter less than 4 months ago. Yes, the down shift was harsh.
Looks like I need a DRB III to pull those codes, the local parts store doesn't have one, so I think it's time to take it to the local shop. I was told over the phone it could be a solenoid, cost to repair $400+/-. Is that fair and what does a rebuild run?
Thanks, JP
 
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find out anything ??
 
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 01:25 PM
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Well they pulled the codes and there were several; solenoids, clutch plates, pressure, etc. They re-set the codes, but they came right back. Also, what used to be an intermittent problem is now slipping and not shifting. The A/C is also starting to act up. Basically it's toast. Did get a quote on a Jasper transmission 3 year/100k warranty for $3k. Due to the hight mileage 225K I'm probably not going to do that, although other than the two "minor" problems (tranny and A/C), the van is in good shape.
 
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