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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 07:57 PM
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Hi i'm new to this forum .
My 1992 Dodge Caravan (In real good shape BTW ) sometime it start , running very nice , but after 5-6 minutes it sputter then stall .
If i try to start it right away , some time it will start back , but most of the time it won't .
Have to wait a few hours then it will start right away .
Today i changed the fuel filter 9 that seemed to be good and spark plug and wiring ( that were in real bad shape ) that didn't change anything .
Some says it's the camshaft sensor or the crankshaft sensor , but do these pieces can have intermittent fail or they just work or not ?
The engine is cranking like there is no spark or the injectors are not receiving the signal when it doesn't start .
I changed the coil too .
 
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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 09:08 PM
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Ck the crank sensor wires. They sometime melt together and cause either a stalling or no start problem.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 07:58 AM
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the wires seems not melted togheter .
I have another crank sensor .
But was is the trick to get them out the engine

I worked 4 hours the other day to take one out .
Butchered all the wiring and hoses that were in the way .
And had to pry for a loing time
They are pretty hard to take out , and i can't butcher everything like i did on the other Caravan that was going to the crusher anyway
Is there a way to check if the one on the truck is working OK ? what kind of tool i have to use OHM , or else and how ?
Thanks for your answer .Master Tech .
Robert
 
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 11:19 AM
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Also check the fuel pressure. If it is too low it will do that.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 01:00 PM
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Fuel pressure while running is between 48 -50 psi , disconnecting the fuel pressure regulator is 40psi there is supposed to be minus ten psi so that is ok
And it hold pressure while stopped for a long time
This morning i started it about ten time out of 20 trials +/- 5
It run then stall.
While it run it's like brand new i give throttle no missing or popping of any kind .
Run like there is no problem at all , then suddenly it stop running .
Look like electrical , while cranking and not starting the tach doesn't move sometime .
 

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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 03:17 PM
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What motor is it? No codes?
 
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 05:02 PM
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Hi
It's a 1992 3.3L Auto 4 speeds
No , no codes
2 minutes ago , it started , so i put it on ramps for tomorrow morning .
 
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Old Jun 10, 2010 | 09:53 PM
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Geeez i look nice now
Tried to pull the crankshaft position sensor , and it broke flush to the tranny bellhousing .
What i do now ? do i have to pull the tranny out ? Or can i try drilling it out
I'd like to have a pic of what flywheel or flexplate looks like so i'll be able to drill without going through the sensor on it .
Thanks i'm in deep s--- now
 
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 08:27 PM
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Took out the crank pos'n sensor using a bi metal bell saw 3/4 but using only the outside, retracting the center drill .
Problem was the camshaft pos'n sensor
Thank you all .
 
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