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Old Aug 1, 2013 | 09:36 AM
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Exclamation 2009 Grand Caravan stall - NEED HELP - New info!

I recently changed the plugs to NGK plugs and now I noticed that sometimes when idling it will almost stall and if in gear and stopped it will actually stall. The engine is a 3.3l. Anyone now if the Caravan is picky on plugs? Maybe the MAP sensor? The check engine light is not lit and my OBD II reader shows no codes.
 

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Old Aug 1, 2013 | 11:00 AM
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I should also mention that I hit this sensor accidently when installing the plugs but moving it around doesn't cause it to stall and I did not hit it hard but did move it.
 

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It is getting a lot worse now, it almost stalls at all interactions even when in park or neutral. I disconnected the O2 sensors (both), and the EGR valve, same issue. I also tried a second coil and replaced the plugs, same issue. When I disconnected the EGR valve it seemed to act better for less then 5 minutes but is now really bad. The van is showing the code P1128 now.
 

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Old Aug 5, 2013 | 03:21 PM
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I thought the EGR on the 3.3 is designed to stay open if the electrics are disconnected. Meaning that, it would flow at idle and cause a stall at low revs. It's been a while since my P0405 code and EGR replacement, maybe the memory is going.
 
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That will make it very hard to troubleshoot
 
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Old Aug 6, 2013 | 12:04 AM
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You can run the car without the MAP sensor. Just unplug it, and see if it runs.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2013 | 11:32 AM
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I have a 2010 gc with a 3.3 & 17,000 miles is it ready for plugs ??
 
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Old Aug 6, 2013 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by lovvorn
I have a 2010 gc with a 3.3 & 17,000 miles is it ready for plugs ??
I believe they are rated for around 80,000 miles but I am not 100% sure. Certainly more then 17,000
 
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Old Aug 6, 2013 | 12:28 PM
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In the '08 owners manual, the spark plugs (type ZFR5LP-13G) are replaced at 102,000 miles / 170000 km or 102 months. Same schedule for the plug wires.


 
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I took the van to the shop, the cam sensor is not responding. Unfortunately I have to wait until tomorrow for it to come in so I will see then if that solved the stalling issue.
 
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