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[3rd Gen : 96-00]: Engine will crank,no start

Old May 6, 2015 | 10:40 PM
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1999 2.4L....I had problems a few months back with it running rough and the SES came on.It wound up being the EGR valve...Yesterday,it began running a little rough, the SES light came on,then stalled out several times. Changed out the EGR valve again,started up fine...then the after a few minutes the idle dropped off and the engine stalled out...NOW it will not start.It is cranking strong though...Can I still pull a diagnostic code to see whats going on?....Thanks.
 
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Old May 9, 2015 | 09:32 AM
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If the SES light is on, that means that a code is stored, and most any OBD II scanner should be able to read the code. This would be the first step to solving your issue.
 
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Old May 9, 2015 | 10:33 PM
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i ll get a scanner to check the code....I also noticed that im not hearing the fuel pump energize ,when i turn the key to the on position...I do hear a relay clicking in the fuse/relay center in the engine compartment.
 
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Old May 10, 2015 | 09:37 PM
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Borrowed a code key scanner,but was not to pull any codes. Cycled the ignition key on and off several times and did hear and feel the relays clicking on and off for the fuel pump and auto shut down relays...I did not hear the pump energize...im hoping it isnt the fuel pump...it looks like a pain to r&r....Anyone have an idea..I read that if the relays are energizing then the crank sensor is working properly....I have to check for spark,then go from there.....Thanks.
 
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Old May 11, 2015 | 06:33 PM
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The first thing I would do at this point is to check the fuel pump relay. It is located in the power center under the hood. There are several relays there, most are the same and can be swapped around for testing. Remove the fuel pump relay and exchange for another. I believe the horn relay is also there and is the same relay. If the two relays fit in each other's sockets, you are good to go. After the swap see if the van will start. If it does, you've found your problem. If still no go, a fuel pump may be in your future. To check this, connect a fuel pressure gauge to the schrader valve on the fuel rail. Turn the key to the on position and see what pressure, if any, is presented on the gauge. If less than 35 PSI, you probably have a pump problem.
Changing the pump on a '99 isn't too bad (I've done it twice).

See this link for further instruction on testing your fuel pump:

http://troubleshootmyvehicle.com/chr...he-fuel-pump-1
 
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Old May 11, 2015 | 08:18 PM
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The first thing I would do at this point is to check the fuel pump relay. It is located in the power center under the hood. There are several relays there, most are the same and can be swapped around for testing. Remove the fuel pump relay and exchange for another. I believe the horn relay is also there and is the same relay. If the two relays fit in each other's sockets, you are good to go. After the swap see if the van will start. If it does, you've found your problem. If still no go, a fuel pump may be in your future. To check this, connect a fuel pressure gauge to the schrader valve on the fuel rail. Turn the key to the on position and see what pressure, if any, is presented on the gauge. If less than 35 PSI, you probably have a pump problem.
Changing the pump on a '99 isn't too bad (I've done it twice).

See this link for further instruction on testing your fuel pump:

http://troubleshootmyvehicle.com/chr...he-fuel-pump-1

Careful checking the relay's, they are stuck in there pretty snug. I actually had to buy 2 new ones for 17.99 each because I damaged both the power shut down and fuel pump relay.
 
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Old May 12, 2015 | 11:27 AM
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I have spark at the ignition wires......I depresssed the shraeder valve on the fuel rail...no fuel at all when cranking the engine and i did swap out the relays in the control panel....there are only 2 relays that are the same, the fuel pump and the auto shutdown relays.....i also did not hear the fuel pump energize when i turned the key to "on" position.... i am going to probably go for a fuel pump.....189000 miles....ha!...
 
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Old May 12, 2015 | 06:13 PM
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Change the fuel filter at the same time. If you have the tank dropped to replace the pump, changing the filter is very simple.
If you don't already have one, I would recommend getting a strap wrench. It make loosening the pump mounting ring much easier.
 
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Old May 12, 2015 | 09:11 PM
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Ok,I wound up having a bad fuel pump....new and improved pump has an internal strainer and a better impeller....142 dollars at PEP Boys.Had to drop the fuel tank,after draining all most a full tank!...ALL in all not too bad to do....I loosened the pump lock nut using a punch and a rubber mallet....Initially after verifying good spark,I sprayed starting fluid in the intake and the engine started..I also used a mallet and smacked the bottom of the fuel tank where the pump is located..got the pump to to work temporarily.....Took it out for a drive....All went well,running smooth,and no SES light.......189K...Hopefully this will be major thing to do for a while!!!.I want to enjoy the summer!!
 
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Old May 12, 2015 | 09:28 PM
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Glad to hear you got it running again!
 
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