[5th Gen : 08+]: 2011 GC runs rich with negative fuel trim
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2011 GC runs rich with negative fuel trim
Hello all:
I bought a 2011 GC with some kind of engine problem. I'm trying to identify it but so far I got confused. The mechanic suggested to the previous owner to replace the engine. It had 1, 3, and 5 misfire codes along with P0300, P0172, P0175, and P000B.
I opened the upper intake and noticed the intake manifold was cleaner around the #3 and #5 injectors, a sign of a leaky injector. I replaced them. The oil is gas smelly but oil level is not too high.
Now, the car runs somewhat funnily for a minute when cold. Then, it starts to idle high and low periodically until it dies. It keeps running if you push the gas pedal. If you wait half a day, it behaves similarly.
Both banks run still rich (P0172 and P0175), and all 4 O2 sensors confirm this (they are all ~0.9V). Fuel trims are all -30. I hear some funny sounds like grinding. I feel like the tops do not get enough oil. Next weekend, I will crank with the top off to confirm I get oil there and do a compression test. I get P0300 multi cyclinder misfire but not specific to 1 3 and 5 now.
I guess the fuel pressure is crazy high and forces the injectors to leak, or maybe there is something I cannot think of.
Do you have any inputs or such experiences? I appreciate any help you can provide. I have another 2011 van, if I need to test some components I can borrow it from the other one.
I will do compression test over the weekend.
TIA
I bought a 2011 GC with some kind of engine problem. I'm trying to identify it but so far I got confused. The mechanic suggested to the previous owner to replace the engine. It had 1, 3, and 5 misfire codes along with P0300, P0172, P0175, and P000B.
I opened the upper intake and noticed the intake manifold was cleaner around the #3 and #5 injectors, a sign of a leaky injector. I replaced them. The oil is gas smelly but oil level is not too high.
Now, the car runs somewhat funnily for a minute when cold. Then, it starts to idle high and low periodically until it dies. It keeps running if you push the gas pedal. If you wait half a day, it behaves similarly.
Both banks run still rich (P0172 and P0175), and all 4 O2 sensors confirm this (they are all ~0.9V). Fuel trims are all -30. I hear some funny sounds like grinding. I feel like the tops do not get enough oil. Next weekend, I will crank with the top off to confirm I get oil there and do a compression test. I get P0300 multi cyclinder misfire but not specific to 1 3 and 5 now.
I guess the fuel pressure is crazy high and forces the injectors to leak, or maybe there is something I cannot think of.
Do you have any inputs or such experiences? I appreciate any help you can provide. I have another 2011 van, if I need to test some components I can borrow it from the other one.
I will do compression test over the weekend.
TIA
Last edited by uccoskun; 04-10-2023 at 11:10 PM.
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Hello all:
I bought a 2011 GC with some kind of engine problem. I'm trying to identify it but so far I got confused. The mechanic suggested to the previous owner to replace the engine. It had 1, 3, and 5 misfire codes along with P0300, P0172, P0175, and P000B.
I opened the upper intake and noticed the intake manifold was cleaner around the #3 and #5 injectors, a sign of a leaky injector. I replaced them. The oil is gas smelly but oil level is not too high.
Now, the car runs somewhat funnily for a minute when cold. Then, it starts to idle high and low periodically until it dies. It keeps running if you push the gas pedal. If you wait half a day, it behaves similarly.
Both banks run still rich (P0172 and P0175), and all 4 O2 sensors confirm this (they are all ~0.9V). Fuel trims are all -30. I hear some funny sounds like grinding. I feel like the tops do not get enough oil. Next weekend, I will crank with the top off to confirm I get oil there and do a compression test. I get P0300 multi cyclinder misfire but not specific to 1 3 and 5 now.
I guess the fuel pressure is crazy high and forces the injectors to leak, or maybe there is something I cannot think of.
Do you have any inputs or such experiences? I appreciate any help you can provide. I have another 2011 van, if I need to test some components I can borrow it from the other one.
I will do compression test over the weekend.
TIA
I bought a 2011 GC with some kind of engine problem. I'm trying to identify it but so far I got confused. The mechanic suggested to the previous owner to replace the engine. It had 1, 3, and 5 misfire codes along with P0300, P0172, P0175, and P000B.
I opened the upper intake and noticed the intake manifold was cleaner around the #3 and #5 injectors, a sign of a leaky injector. I replaced them. The oil is gas smelly but oil level is not too high.
Now, the car runs somewhat funnily for a minute when cold. Then, it starts to idle high and low periodically until it dies. It keeps running if you push the gas pedal. If you wait half a day, it behaves similarly.
Both banks run still rich (P0172 and P0175), and all 4 O2 sensors confirm this (they are all ~0.9V). Fuel trims are all -30. I hear some funny sounds like grinding. I feel like the tops do not get enough oil. Next weekend, I will crank with the top off to confirm I get oil there and do a compression test. I get P0300 multi cyclinder misfire but not specific to 1 3 and 5 now.
I guess the fuel pressure is crazy high and forces the injectors to leak, or maybe there is something I cannot think of.
Do you have any inputs or such experiences? I appreciate any help you can provide. I have another 2011 van, if I need to test some components I can borrow it from the other one.
I will do compression test over the weekend.
TIA
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