How bout that Charger???
RE: How bout that Charger???
ORIGINAL: TeeWJay426
Nicko- Nice try, but the minute you critized me for MY choices and preferences, which you have, you left yourself wide open for me to do the same, so don't start whining about it now. And for the record, my criticism is directed at DCX and the car, NOT you. And if I choose to not practice blind allegiance to the car just because it says Dodge on it, too bad. Like MoparTodd said, some people are so blindly loyal to Chevy that you could put a bow tie emblem on a pile of dog crap and they'd buy it. There are some that feel the same toward Chrysler. I don't, and if DCX makes what I think is a bone head move, which in my OPINION they have with this car, I'm not gonna mince words about it- I'm gonna say so! Just because that opinion doesn't agree with yours, don't take it personally. And if I find a car that does suit me, I will buy it..... and if it's a Mustang, WTF is it to you? I'd mke sure to never leave it in a mall parking lot in Michigan where certain teens might stumble upon it, but if that's the choice I make, deal with it. Most likely, I'll go buy another 'sucky old car', and keep driving my truck, which was equipped EXACTLY as I wanted it. I suppose you'll have something to say about that too?
Nicko- Nice try, but the minute you critized me for MY choices and preferences, which you have, you left yourself wide open for me to do the same, so don't start whining about it now. And for the record, my criticism is directed at DCX and the car, NOT you. And if I choose to not practice blind allegiance to the car just because it says Dodge on it, too bad. Like MoparTodd said, some people are so blindly loyal to Chevy that you could put a bow tie emblem on a pile of dog crap and they'd buy it. There are some that feel the same toward Chrysler. I don't, and if DCX makes what I think is a bone head move, which in my OPINION they have with this car, I'm not gonna mince words about it- I'm gonna say so! Just because that opinion doesn't agree with yours, don't take it personally. And if I find a car that does suit me, I will buy it..... and if it's a Mustang, WTF is it to you? I'd mke sure to never leave it in a mall parking lot in Michigan where certain teens might stumble upon it, but if that's the choice I make, deal with it. Most likely, I'll go buy another 'sucky old car', and keep driving my truck, which was equipped EXACTLY as I wanted it. I suppose you'll have something to say about that too?
i don't care if you criticize my choices and preferences unless it gets out of hand. i just don't want you people bitching to Chrysler and ruining this car for me. please don't start the parking lot **** again. i don't need to return to that yet. I'm still sort of being watched about flaming for starting that. your truck is a dodge, so why would i have anything except good choice to say to you concerning that. mustang = blocked its for my own good to hold back from saying certain things to you, that would get me in trouble. get another sucky old car see if i care, as long as it isn't a mustang. you people can have your old cars and enjoy them. just don't force old cars upon me or try to make modern cars old.
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RE: How bout that Charger???
ORIGINAL: nickoman01
i don't care if you criticize my choices and preferences unless it gets out of hand. i just don't want you people bitching to Chrysler and ruining this car for me. please don't start the parking lot **** again. i don't need to return to that yet. I'm still sort of being watched about flaming for starting that. your truck is a dodge, so why would i have anything except good choice to say to you concerning that. mustang = blocked its for my own good to hold back from saying certain things to you, that would get me in trouble. get another sucky old car see if i care, as long as it isn't a mustang. you people can have your old cars and enjoy them. just don't force old cars upon me or try to make modern cars old.
i don't care if you criticize my choices and preferences unless it gets out of hand. i just don't want you people bitching to Chrysler and ruining this car for me. please don't start the parking lot **** again. i don't need to return to that yet. I'm still sort of being watched about flaming for starting that. your truck is a dodge, so why would i have anything except good choice to say to you concerning that. mustang = blocked its for my own good to hold back from saying certain things to you, that would get me in trouble. get another sucky old car see if i care, as long as it isn't a mustang. you people can have your old cars and enjoy them. just don't force old cars upon me or try to make modern cars old.
And explain to me how it is that you think I have the power to ruin this car for you??!!! I, and many other enthusiasts, have already bitched to DCX about it. And they as much as said that they don't give a rat's a$$ what we think. If they did, this thing would be called the Intrepid or Magnum sedan. And how was I trying to FORCE anything on you? Do I have some power to make you accept something you don't like? Or is this just you trying to pass off your wild opinions as facts again? I couldn't care less what you think. When you come in here and start attacking my opinions as if they're wrong because they're different from yours, THAT'S where I draw the line. Yours is no more valid or important than anybody else's , and you need to grow up and realize it.
RE: How bout that Charger???
ORIGINAL: TeeWJay426
Nicko- lemme 'splain sumtin' to you. When you come here and say you don't like old cars (pre-1998), that's an OPINION. When you come here and say 'all old cars suck', that's just IGNORANCE. If you can't grasp that distinction, then your issues go way beyond your closed mind.
And explain to me how it is that you think I have the power to ruin this car for you??!!! I, and many other enthusiasts, have already bitched to DCX about it. And they as much as said that they don't give a rat's a$$ what we think. If they did, this thing would be called the Intrepid or Magnum sedan. And how was I trying to FORCE anything on you? Do I have some power to make you accept something you don't like? Or is this just you trying to pass off your wild opinions as facts again? I couldn't care less what you think. When you come in here and start attacking my opinions as if they're wrong because they're different from yours, THAT'S where I draw the line. Yours is no more valid or important than anybody else's , and you need to grow up and realize it.
Nicko- lemme 'splain sumtin' to you. When you come here and say you don't like old cars (pre-1998), that's an OPINION. When you come here and say 'all old cars suck', that's just IGNORANCE. If you can't grasp that distinction, then your issues go way beyond your closed mind.
And explain to me how it is that you think I have the power to ruin this car for you??!!! I, and many other enthusiasts, have already bitched to DCX about it. And they as much as said that they don't give a rat's a$$ what we think. If they did, this thing would be called the Intrepid or Magnum sedan. And how was I trying to FORCE anything on you? Do I have some power to make you accept something you don't like? Or is this just you trying to pass off your wild opinions as facts again? I couldn't care less what you think. When you come in here and start attacking my opinions as if they're wrong because they're different from yours, THAT'S where I draw the line. Yours is no more valid or important than anybody else's , and you need to grow up and realize it.
I'm calling you out on that. if that was remotely true, you wouldn't let me get to you like i do. its not that I'm wrong by any means, you just cant accept my opinion. my OPINION is that i don't like old cars, and that ALL old cars suck. thats 100% opinion. nothing at all to do with ignorance. it would be ignorance if i never had experiences with older cars, and have never seen any of the ugly *** ones. but i have, so it isn't ignorance.
Do I have some power to make you accept something you don't like?
if your bitching got this car altered in any way, yes you would.
Yours is no more valid or important than anybody else's
i do realize that, in fact i realize yours are as worthless as mine. see i can be proud though, that my opinion is equal to a 40?? something year old. YOUR OPINION IS EQUAL TO A 17 YEAR OLD.
STOP FLAMING. all i want is for you people to accept this car for what it is. just because it shares a name with an old pos should make me a disgraced for liking it. but a name is a word. IT IS A F*CKIN WORD, so i don't care. the past doesn't matter. who cares what Hitler did. it is done and over with, so there is no point of worrying or caring about it. the number of doors do not matter. so what if you only use 2 doors. does the other 2 doors hurt you. no. actually they are very nice to have for the one time you need to put **** in the back seat. "OMG lets freak out about the number of doors and the WORD attached to it." it doesn't matter, so all i ask is that you accept this car for what it is. this is 2005, not 1966. people in 2005 do not want to spend 30 grand for a piece of crap from 40 years ago. we want our moneys worth, and now a days our money is worth the new charger.
leave me alone and accept this car for what it is. it is the 2006 DODGE CHARGER
moderators:: this maybe a form of flaming, i don't know. all i know is that I'm not violating any groups of people this time, and i haven't personally attacked TJ. I'm calling for an end to the personal attacks by stating "leave me alone". i just want people to accept this car for what it is. is that to much to ask?
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RE: How bout that Charger???
ok....i dont like the language being used here, or the tone and attitude....both of you settle down...period.
nicko like 4 door cars and thinks the charger is cool...he wasnt around (nor was i) when the 69 charger Was on the cutting edge of performance and comfort. to him, its noisy and uncomfortable, so to him, the new charger is an improvement. TJ was around when the charger was a premium car..a "highline", if you will...he has an appreciation for cars around him when he was when growing up....while i agree with TJ on the appreciation of the old charger, the fact of the matter is that you guys are no longer arguing about the 2006 charger,,,youre arguing about each other...
the people who have an issue with the name charger are people who have been waiting for ages for, in reality, a rounded off version of the 69 charger....people like myself and TJ wanted to see DCX do what ford did..take a classic, make the interior modern, and round the edges a bit...and call it a 2006...but instead...they didnt..its nothing like the original..so the people who have been waiting are dissappointed, with myself being included...nicko wasnt around for the "glory days" of the muscle car, and he is obviously more concerned with comfort than he is with "classic styling and performance", which is fine...
ya knwo what i want from DCX? why i wanted a coupe? and nicko, im sure, knowing your hatred of the stang, that you will agree. i wanted a 2 door RWD car..a "pony car"..so that the mustang ****** at the track and on the street stop making sedan comments..."lets see chrysler build a sports car"...the viper doesnt count, not with the pricetag it carries....thats why i wanted a coupe nicko...and if they dont want to call it the charger..thats fine...they can call it the turdmobile for all i care..so long as its a RWD coupe to put the stang in its place...as long as ive been racing..ive listened to firdbird, camaro, and stang turds go on about mopars lack of a "pony car"...thats why im upset..because i thought that this would finally be it...but yet i wait.
nicko like 4 door cars and thinks the charger is cool...he wasnt around (nor was i) when the 69 charger Was on the cutting edge of performance and comfort. to him, its noisy and uncomfortable, so to him, the new charger is an improvement. TJ was around when the charger was a premium car..a "highline", if you will...he has an appreciation for cars around him when he was when growing up....while i agree with TJ on the appreciation of the old charger, the fact of the matter is that you guys are no longer arguing about the 2006 charger,,,youre arguing about each other...
the people who have an issue with the name charger are people who have been waiting for ages for, in reality, a rounded off version of the 69 charger....people like myself and TJ wanted to see DCX do what ford did..take a classic, make the interior modern, and round the edges a bit...and call it a 2006...but instead...they didnt..its nothing like the original..so the people who have been waiting are dissappointed, with myself being included...nicko wasnt around for the "glory days" of the muscle car, and he is obviously more concerned with comfort than he is with "classic styling and performance", which is fine...
ya knwo what i want from DCX? why i wanted a coupe? and nicko, im sure, knowing your hatred of the stang, that you will agree. i wanted a 2 door RWD car..a "pony car"..so that the mustang ****** at the track and on the street stop making sedan comments..."lets see chrysler build a sports car"...the viper doesnt count, not with the pricetag it carries....thats why i wanted a coupe nicko...and if they dont want to call it the charger..thats fine...they can call it the turdmobile for all i care..so long as its a RWD coupe to put the stang in its place...as long as ive been racing..ive listened to firdbird, camaro, and stang turds go on about mopars lack of a "pony car"...thats why im upset..because i thought that this would finally be it...but yet i wait.
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RE: How bout that Charger???
Gotta agree with you badstrat, this car is a big disappointment for those of us looking for a Charger. Nicko, the problem is the market this car was geared for was around to see the 69's on the road. So they do expect some resemblance to the car they once loved. This car bears no dna with its older sibling. And don't get me wrong nick I know you like the charger, and thats great, but you are not the target market. Most 17-20 year olds are not in the market for a 30-35 thousand dollar sedan. Most drive used mommymoblies, or newer subcompacts. So if Chrysler wants to sell this thing to its target market it needs to make some major changes!
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RE: How bout that Charger???
jgralka
Are you not being presumptious to assume that you represent the target market for the new Charger. I would speculate that your opinion is only representative a few thousand, at most, of the potential buyers for this car. Mopar fanatics are not a large segment of the Mopar market, Dodge fanatics even less so. I think the new Charger will do well as it is designed.
You may not buy one, but for every one of you "fanatics" there will be either a young enthusiast such as Nick, or an old enthusiat such as me who buy cars for what they are, not what they used to be.
As a moter vehicle, the new Charger is a better car than the old one. You may prefer the styling of the old cars with two doors, but any new car built today is a better car than any comparable 40 year old car.
Are you not being presumptious to assume that you represent the target market for the new Charger. I would speculate that your opinion is only representative a few thousand, at most, of the potential buyers for this car. Mopar fanatics are not a large segment of the Mopar market, Dodge fanatics even less so. I think the new Charger will do well as it is designed.
You may not buy one, but for every one of you "fanatics" there will be either a young enthusiast such as Nick, or an old enthusiat such as me who buy cars for what they are, not what they used to be.
As a moter vehicle, the new Charger is a better car than the old one. You may prefer the styling of the old cars with two doors, but any new car built today is a better car than any comparable 40 year old car.
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RE: How bout that Charger???
anyone who thinks that the "charger", just like the magnum, was not designed for a middle class man...age 30-50, married, with a few kids, is a JACKASS...the target market is NOT someone my age...its made for some 35yo guy whose wife wont let him buy a real sports car because its not practical, but he will think..."hmmm, a charger...when i was a young'un, chargers were cool...and i can buy this and still get little johnny to soccer practice, but still be 'cool' just like the guys who had real chargers back in the day..." so he gets his 340hp, he can put some borla exhaust on it, and rev his engine at stop lights agaisnt some young'un in a mustang..and feel good about himself....and his wife is happy...i like the magnum, and for a 4 door, i like the charger...but it simply isnt my market...ESPECIALLY with the price...i paid 26k for my car...i wouldnt pay 30+ for a big 4 door sedan at this point in my life..and honestly, i think i might actually buy the magnum SRT8 before i bought the charger...but i havent driven the charger yet...
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RE: How bout that Charger???
Done,
The target market on the charger is "males 35-50 years of age making 50-90 thousand a year." Thats Chrysler's words, not mine. They replaced the family car (intrepid) with the magnum. This was suppose to be something different, but instead we got two family cars.
Joe
The target market on the charger is "males 35-50 years of age making 50-90 thousand a year." Thats Chrysler's words, not mine. They replaced the family car (intrepid) with the magnum. This was suppose to be something different, but instead we got two family cars.
Joe
RE: How bout that Charger???
ORIGINAL: jgralka
Done,
The target market on the charger is "males 35-50 years of age making 50-90 thousand a year." Thats Chrysler's words, not mine. They replaced the family car (intrepid) with the magnum. This was suppose to be something different, but instead we got two family cars.
Joe
Done,
The target market on the charger is "males 35-50 years of age making 50-90 thousand a year." Thats Chrysler's words, not mine. They replaced the family car (intrepid) with the magnum. This was suppose to be something different, but instead we got two family cars.
Joe
they aren't replacing a 4 door sedan(intrepid) with a station wagon. they replace it with another 4 door sedan and add a station wagon. well I'm sure they are happy to know ti is appealing to younger then 35 year olds too.