mustang vs charger??
Soooo, are you kind of saying the samething, only better, than I did?
I know every car I have ever had, when driven back to the midwest (Iowa/Illinois areas), ran bunches better, i.e., stronger, than here. They didn't get better gas mileage, but boy, what a difference that heavy air made. I'm hoping (with all my heart) to be able to make a trip back that way this fall. That should be the telling sign. Heck, even a little Yamaha IT=175 motorcycle I had would loft the front end in third gear back there!
I would think the fella with the Denver Saleen was running way too rich in Pitt. I suppose with computers in the cars now that that is compensated for as altitude changes - go lower, lean it out and vise versa. We have to run pretty lean jets in carbs here and really mess with idle adjustment and air screws to get carbs to run really good.
That picture was shortly after I bought the car and only had the CAI installed. Thanks for the compliment. I'm approaching 60, and I really love my Charger [sm=gears.gif]
dave
I know every car I have ever had, when driven back to the midwest (Iowa/Illinois areas), ran bunches better, i.e., stronger, than here. They didn't get better gas mileage, but boy, what a difference that heavy air made. I'm hoping (with all my heart) to be able to make a trip back that way this fall. That should be the telling sign. Heck, even a little Yamaha IT=175 motorcycle I had would loft the front end in third gear back there!
I would think the fella with the Denver Saleen was running way too rich in Pitt. I suppose with computers in the cars now that that is compensated for as altitude changes - go lower, lean it out and vise versa. We have to run pretty lean jets in carbs here and really mess with idle adjustment and air screws to get carbs to run really good.
That picture was shortly after I bought the car and only had the CAI installed. Thanks for the compliment. I'm approaching 60, and I really love my Charger [sm=gears.gif]
dave
so your first official act was to get those unneeded extra layers of rubber off? 
i would think that if you were achieving a perfect mixture in denver, that when there was more oxygen in pittsburgh, you would run lean...an extreme example would be taking an untuned car, and putting alot of nitrous to it....since the point of the nitrous is to introduce compounded amounts of oxygen into the combustion process...
right? or am i backwards?
and while i am not a huge fan of the charger, i definately see the allure...but the charger just isnt for me...im glad that so many people do like them though...

i would think that if you were achieving a perfect mixture in denver, that when there was more oxygen in pittsburgh, you would run lean...an extreme example would be taking an untuned car, and putting alot of nitrous to it....since the point of the nitrous is to introduce compounded amounts of oxygen into the combustion process...
right? or am i backwards?
and while i am not a huge fan of the charger, i definately see the allure...but the charger just isnt for me...im glad that so many people do like them though...
To be honest I haven't been to the track, but I know that the Jet stage 2 is advancing the timing due to the ping when it is over 100 degrees at 4000 RPM. I have asked prior but no one exactly knows what the JET chip does. I presume tricking the mass air flow sensor to think it is at a higher altitude or something of the like, but dyno results do show a 13 hp increase. With the vehicle at stock on the Superchips I do not have the detonation situation so timing has to be effected. Bosting the octane over 95 has seemed to cure it.
As far as my reasoning towards the SRT-300 C performance manufacturing variances have been known to cause increases or decreases in HP from like car to like car on the assembly line which may account for part of it. My previous track time could also effect my ability to hang as well as having the programer set so I can manually shift at a much higher RPM. A lot of factors to consider out side of HP and Torque... a lot.
As far as my reasoning towards the SRT-300 C performance manufacturing variances have been known to cause increases or decreases in HP from like car to like car on the assembly line which may account for part of it. My previous track time could also effect my ability to hang as well as having the programer set so I can manually shift at a much higher RPM. A lot of factors to consider out side of HP and Torque... a lot.
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so your first official act was to get those unneeded extra layers of rubber off?
i would think that if you were achieving a perfect mixture in denver, that when there was more oxygen in pittsburgh, you would run lean...an extreme example would be taking an untuned car, and putting alot of nitrous to it....since the point of the nitrous is to introduce compounded amounts of oxygen into the combustion process...
right? or am i backwards?
and while i am not a huge fan of the charger, i definately see the allure...but the charger just isnt for me...im glad that so many people do like them though...
so your first official act was to get those unneeded extra layers of rubber off?

i would think that if you were achieving a perfect mixture in denver, that when there was more oxygen in pittsburgh, you would run lean...an extreme example would be taking an untuned car, and putting alot of nitrous to it....since the point of the nitrous is to introduce compounded amounts of oxygen into the combustion process...
right? or am i backwards?
and while i am not a huge fan of the charger, i definately see the allure...but the charger just isnt for me...im glad that so many people do like them though...
Just HATE the first layer of rubber
.OK, have to rethink this mixture problem the guy from Denver had. He would have been running, ummm, way too lien in Pitt. You're right. Sorry. I got myself confused (well, I'm on medication[8D]). He should have gone to fatter jets, and probably more air and maaybe a bit more timing in Pitt, depends on what his engine wanted. But definitely fatter jets to take advantage of the heavy air. I'm surprised he didn't burn a piston, or worse.
dave
i ran upon a str8 charger thursday in a local city here. it was blue. i loved the way it looked and when i pulled up to the guy he had a gorgeous chic with him. i was telling him i liked his car and the ***** dissed mine. its a 95 GT thats in need of paint. he was like" dude you shouldnt pull up to a light beside a car like this with that beat up tang. hell, i wanted to cuss the guy. i was like, "dude, drop it on green and we'll see what this ole gt has". he said it had 395 hp. i never read anything on so i didnt know if he was telling the truth or not. i got him by like 6 cars in a distance of between 1/4 and 1/8 mile. he wouldnt pull up beside me again
i bet his girl ragged on him hrd. i hate guys like that!! but it did run good...ive put double in my motor compared to what my cars even worth though is what he didnt know.
but back to the thread. i like the charger and the gto better than the new tangs. im just not into that retro look. a tricked out GTO looks good with wheels and lowering job. ive never seen a tricked charger but i bet theyed look sweet. best looking 4 door ive ever seen i trhink. i pick either over a new tang. im an sn95 fan myself
its takes all i have to pull a car on a GTO though. theyre pretty mean.
i bet his girl ragged on him hrd. i hate guys like that!! but it did run good...ive put double in my motor compared to what my cars even worth though is what he didnt know.but back to the thread. i like the charger and the gto better than the new tangs. im just not into that retro look. a tricked out GTO looks good with wheels and lowering job. ive never seen a tricked charger but i bet theyed look sweet. best looking 4 door ive ever seen i trhink. i pick either over a new tang. im an sn95 fan myself
its takes all i have to pull a car on a GTO though. theyre pretty mean.


