Dodge AT4
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From: Toowoomba, Qld Australia
Yeah mate runs like a dream, the original slant6 motor has been shafted as they run it to the ground, and have replaced it with a 245hemi (which is a 6) it has a Borg-Warner 3 speed auto box, and new exhaust system.
all this done along with new shocks throughout before i bought it.
So i think i did alright now i no they are worth more then the 2k i spent on it.
(Some pictures are in the link in my original Post.)
all this done along with new shocks throughout before i bought it.
So i think i did alright now i no they are worth more then the 2k i spent on it.
(Some pictures are in the link in my original Post.)
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Hi Michel,
I bought a AT4-3C-353-786, Dual Cab, Minimal Rust fitted with a 360 Chrysler V8, 4 speed New Process Box and 4.875 Dual wheel Diff. I believe it is about 1968 Vintage This unit has a 5th wheel 30ft C/van on the back, I have just finished going right through the Truck, replacing all spring shackle bushes and pins, rebuilt the gear box and Dual wheel Diff, cosmetics on the cab is the next step after I finish off the C/Van.The truck is now fitted with 350 lt of gas/dual fuel.hope to get about 1000km out of that.
I got the pins and bushes of the internet, Windscreen rubber from the net, I cant give you the sites till i get my new Computer back as I just put it in for warranty repair.its all on that computer.
I dont have any Idea what it is worth Prime mover now, perhaps some one out there can hazard a guess.for me.I paid $20.000 for the combined unit, I put about $4000 as value on the truck.Its now had about $7000 spent on the Prime mover only I Bought it as a project, as I love the simplicity of the truck, so easy to work on, and I believe it will now give me years of trouble free touring as I plan to work and drive around Aust.
Good luck with your project I am enjoying working on my unit, soon to be up and away to WA.
Cheers
AT4 5th wheeler
Albert
I bought a AT4-3C-353-786, Dual Cab, Minimal Rust fitted with a 360 Chrysler V8, 4 speed New Process Box and 4.875 Dual wheel Diff. I believe it is about 1968 Vintage This unit has a 5th wheel 30ft C/van on the back, I have just finished going right through the Truck, replacing all spring shackle bushes and pins, rebuilt the gear box and Dual wheel Diff, cosmetics on the cab is the next step after I finish off the C/Van.The truck is now fitted with 350 lt of gas/dual fuel.hope to get about 1000km out of that.
I got the pins and bushes of the internet, Windscreen rubber from the net, I cant give you the sites till i get my new Computer back as I just put it in for warranty repair.its all on that computer.
I dont have any Idea what it is worth Prime mover now, perhaps some one out there can hazard a guess.for me.I paid $20.000 for the combined unit, I put about $4000 as value on the truck.Its now had about $7000 spent on the Prime mover only I Bought it as a project, as I love the simplicity of the truck, so easy to work on, and I believe it will now give me years of trouble free touring as I plan to work and drive around Aust.
Good luck with your project I am enjoying working on my unit, soon to be up and away to WA.
Cheers
AT4 5th wheeler
Albert
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AT4-575 Engine troubles.
Good evening,
I am currently restoring a 313 Poly v8 engine for my truck. I am looking for the correct spark plugs to suit this motor, does anyone have an idea? Also looking for a engine or workshop manual for the 313 poly.
Also is there a replacment for the 2 barrel Carter carburetor?
Thanks for your help.
Thanks Daryl.
I am currently restoring a 313 Poly v8 engine for my truck. I am looking for the correct spark plugs to suit this motor, does anyone have an idea? Also looking for a engine or workshop manual for the 313 poly.
Also is there a replacment for the 2 barrel Carter carburetor?
Thanks for your help.
Thanks Daryl.
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try NGK australia
hi daryl, did a quick search for u and found nothing in ebay but NGK australia seem to list them on their website:
www.ngk.com.au/sparkplug_cars.php
go to spark plugs > part finder > type in details:
for make Dodge A313 came up with B6S for '62 - '64 canadian.
A6FS for '64 - '67 canadian ... so it depends when the engine was made, but i'm not a chrysler expert so don't know how to tell the difference.
Mousey
www.ngk.com.au/sparkplug_cars.php
go to spark plugs > part finder > type in details:
for make Dodge A313 came up with B6S for '62 - '64 canadian.
A6FS for '64 - '67 canadian ... so it depends when the engine was made, but i'm not a chrysler expert so don't know how to tell the difference.
Mousey
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at4
hey guys good to see some avid dodge fans. i to own a dodge at4 114 with a worked 318 tunnel rammed and 904 torque flight tranny. goes hard but can be quiet scarey in the handling department looking at putting it on a hlden one tonne chassis will try and put some photos on at a later date. happy motoring smithy
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helpful info?
I have just purchased an AT4 Cab chassis in good nick. Slant six, duallies, running (No rego).
I need to pick it up on a trailer and need to know an approximate weight for towing.
So, how much does a AT4 cab chassis weigh?
My holden wagon can tow 2100kg on a braked trailer. The trailer is 800kg, would the AT4 weigh 1300kg. Surely not?? Hopefully not!!!
I need to pick it up on a trailer and need to know an approximate weight for towing.
So, how much does a AT4 cab chassis weigh?
My holden wagon can tow 2100kg on a braked trailer. The trailer is 800kg, would the AT4 weigh 1300kg. Surely not?? Hopefully not!!!
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Re AT4 resto, parts and info.
Hi guys, if you're looking for parts, info, etc, for Dodge/International trucks of all sizes, join the HCVC truck site, the guys on there are all truckies from waaaay back who drive/resto all types of trucks from small to monsters. They helped out with my AT4 resto last year. Many of the cab and body parts from Inters. fit the Dodge as they all came out of the Chrysler factory in Adelaide way back when.
My truck had dual rears but the diff is the same width as the single rear trucks, only the wheels are different, to change to singles just get a pair of pressed steel front wheels, stick them on the rear and fit standard front lug nuts, the diff ratio should be 4.1:1 for the AT4-114, as far as I could find out this was the highest ratio, the larger trucks went lower as they got bigger and also went to a 2 speed. The diff is normally a Dana 60, you can get ring and pinion sets for them but they aint cheap!
Smithy1 I reckon your biggest problem is keeping the wheels stuck to the road, I had the same problem with my worked 318, so much grunt and no weight over the rears, thought about fitting a truck s/s air tank under the tray and adding water to weigh it down a bit to get traction, but have to admit it was fun.
AT4 and D5N parts also interchange. Landcruiser power steer is a simple conversion on these trucks as well.
Type in HCVC to find the other site.
Cheers TC, Adelaide
My truck had dual rears but the diff is the same width as the single rear trucks, only the wheels are different, to change to singles just get a pair of pressed steel front wheels, stick them on the rear and fit standard front lug nuts, the diff ratio should be 4.1:1 for the AT4-114, as far as I could find out this was the highest ratio, the larger trucks went lower as they got bigger and also went to a 2 speed. The diff is normally a Dana 60, you can get ring and pinion sets for them but they aint cheap!
Smithy1 I reckon your biggest problem is keeping the wheels stuck to the road, I had the same problem with my worked 318, so much grunt and no weight over the rears, thought about fitting a truck s/s air tank under the tray and adding water to weigh it down a bit to get traction, but have to admit it was fun.
AT4 and D5N parts also interchange. Landcruiser power steer is a simple conversion on these trucks as well.
Type in HCVC to find the other site.
Cheers TC, Adelaide
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8247- Balm
I know this thread was posted ages ago but my reply might help anyone else who needs to figure out what the model numbers mean on Dodge AT4. Well firstly AT4 stands for Australian Truck Series 4, much the same way as an AP2, AP5 etc stands for "Australian Production" chryslers e.g aussie chrysler royal (AP2) and aussie chrysler valiants (AP5 AP6).
Ok, the model numbers are as follows. Your example Dodge AT4 329 , the 329 - first digit tonnage, second and third are wheelbase + 100"......i.e 3 tonner with 129" wheelbase. Another example, Dodge AT4 575 is a 5 tonner with 175" wheelbase, AT4 114 is a 1 tonner with 114" wheelbase. Commers used a similar system.
For models from 460 up, AT4-460 for example would indicate a V8 engine and AT4-460-6 would indicate it was a 6 cylinder version.
From this we can deduce that an AT4 690 is a 6 tonner with a 190" wheelbase (and V8 engine). Also, an AT4 760D would indicate a 7 tonner, 160" wheelbase and Diesel engine (D for diesel).
The 225 slant six engine was available from 1962 and was replaced by the Hemi 245 in 1970 and used in AT4 114, 129, 229, 329, 353, 460-6, 475-6, 560-6, 575-6.
The 313 V8 Poly engine was used from 1962 to 1964 and replaced in 1965 by the 318 V8. V8 engines were used in AT4-460, 475, 560, 575, 660, 675, 690.
The Perkins 6.354 (6 cyl 354 cid Diesel) was available as an option on AT4 660, 675, 690.
The 361 V8 and Cummins 160 (6 cyl 464 cid 160HP diesel) were only available in AT4 760 and 775
This info came from an AT4 parts catalogue with model identification that was kindly sent to me. Production of the AT4 ran from 1962 to about 1972 when replaced by the single headlight D5N... D5N i think simply stands for Dodge series 5, N-normal control (bonnetted truck). The D2F was the dodge version of the Commer after chrysler took over Rootes Group (series 2, F- Forward control)...and these were available with 361 V8 and Cummins 185 (470 cid V8 diesel)...but we digress! hehe. The D might have also coincided with the D series internationals as dodge and inter shared the same cabs and were built at the chrysler factory at South Australia from 1962 onwards as has been mentioned in other posts.
I'm actually in the process of producing models of the AT4 series in kit form in 1/43rd scale. They will be of the AT4 560-6 as a 6 cyl (225 cid) table top and AT4 775 (361 V8) single drive prime mover (a common configuration for these). Prime movers had shortened wheelbases.
Hope this info helps. I'm also researching paint codes for the AT4 so that the models can be painted in authentic original or fleet colours, so if anyone has any info please post them, especially the aussie code for Dodge truck Red.
The codes i have so far are :
8623 - white
7239 - green/aqua
13211 - a fleet colour, i think it was telecom orange?
5259 - Dodge Truck Green
7238 - ?
Mousey
Ok, the model numbers are as follows. Your example Dodge AT4 329 , the 329 - first digit tonnage, second and third are wheelbase + 100"......i.e 3 tonner with 129" wheelbase. Another example, Dodge AT4 575 is a 5 tonner with 175" wheelbase, AT4 114 is a 1 tonner with 114" wheelbase. Commers used a similar system.
For models from 460 up, AT4-460 for example would indicate a V8 engine and AT4-460-6 would indicate it was a 6 cylinder version.
From this we can deduce that an AT4 690 is a 6 tonner with a 190" wheelbase (and V8 engine). Also, an AT4 760D would indicate a 7 tonner, 160" wheelbase and Diesel engine (D for diesel).
The 225 slant six engine was available from 1962 and was replaced by the Hemi 245 in 1970 and used in AT4 114, 129, 229, 329, 353, 460-6, 475-6, 560-6, 575-6.
The 313 V8 Poly engine was used from 1962 to 1964 and replaced in 1965 by the 318 V8. V8 engines were used in AT4-460, 475, 560, 575, 660, 675, 690.
The Perkins 6.354 (6 cyl 354 cid Diesel) was available as an option on AT4 660, 675, 690.
The 361 V8 and Cummins 160 (6 cyl 464 cid 160HP diesel) were only available in AT4 760 and 775
This info came from an AT4 parts catalogue with model identification that was kindly sent to me. Production of the AT4 ran from 1962 to about 1972 when replaced by the single headlight D5N... D5N i think simply stands for Dodge series 5, N-normal control (bonnetted truck). The D2F was the dodge version of the Commer after chrysler took over Rootes Group (series 2, F- Forward control)...and these were available with 361 V8 and Cummins 185 (470 cid V8 diesel)...but we digress! hehe. The D might have also coincided with the D series internationals as dodge and inter shared the same cabs and were built at the chrysler factory at South Australia from 1962 onwards as has been mentioned in other posts.
I'm actually in the process of producing models of the AT4 series in kit form in 1/43rd scale. They will be of the AT4 560-6 as a 6 cyl (225 cid) table top and AT4 775 (361 V8) single drive prime mover (a common configuration for these). Prime movers had shortened wheelbases.
Hope this info helps. I'm also researching paint codes for the AT4 so that the models can be painted in authentic original or fleet colours, so if anyone has any info please post them, especially the aussie code for Dodge truck Red.
The codes i have so far are :
8623 - white
7239 - green/aqua
13211 - a fleet colour, i think it was telecom orange?
5259 - Dodge Truck Green
7238 - ?
Mousey