Blue-ish Exhaust Smoke
For a while now I've noticed a white/blue smoke when I start up my truck. I guess its more white than blue and it typically happens when the truck has been sitting a few days. It had been sitting since Sunday (four days) and when I started it today it smoked at start up and for 10-20 seconds after.
Y'all think this something to worry about or just condensation build up in the exhaust system.
Thanks
Y'all think this something to worry about or just condensation build up in the exhaust system.
Thanks
Could be a couple of things, none of which in my opinion are really anything to worry about. But this is just my guess based on what you wrote.
- Condensation. Likely source for white-ish steam coming out of the tailpipe. If it evaporates after leaving the pipe (unless it's really humid outside) then that's likely it.
- A bit of oil from the PCV could be settling on the valves, then getting burned right at startup. That would cause blue smoke. Not a big deal if that's the source of the blue smoke.
A little more on PCV...
Every vehicle has some sort of PCV system. It's needed as a means to release air pressure in the oiling system to keep from blowing oil seals. Environmental rules don't allow that to be vented to the open air. So manufacturers typically use a PVC valve (a one-way pressure release valve) that generally sits on the valve cover or somewhere on the cylinder head. From there is a tube that leads to the air intake. So effectively, the PVC air (that has oily vapor in it) is being put into the air intake. At normal operating temps, the oil is a vapor. Let it sit a while though when the engine cools, and it'll turn into small drops of oil, which will then trickle down to the lowest spot they can find. On startup, that oil is either sitting on the valves, or some other low spot in the intake, and it'll get sucked into the engine. There's your blue smoke on startup.
It's generally not a big deal. Some people (like myself) are a little OCD about stuff like that. I've ordered a PCV filter that I'll install once I pick up my truck. All it does is catch most of the oil vapors and lets it puddle up in a container rather than in the intake or on the valves. No real need to do so...people drive for hundreds of thousands of miles with no issues. But like I said, I'm a little OCD about stuff like that, and I'd rather not have oil getting into my air intake and possibly gunking stuff up over time.
- Condensation. Likely source for white-ish steam coming out of the tailpipe. If it evaporates after leaving the pipe (unless it's really humid outside) then that's likely it.
- A bit of oil from the PCV could be settling on the valves, then getting burned right at startup. That would cause blue smoke. Not a big deal if that's the source of the blue smoke.
A little more on PCV...
Every vehicle has some sort of PCV system. It's needed as a means to release air pressure in the oiling system to keep from blowing oil seals. Environmental rules don't allow that to be vented to the open air. So manufacturers typically use a PVC valve (a one-way pressure release valve) that generally sits on the valve cover or somewhere on the cylinder head. From there is a tube that leads to the air intake. So effectively, the PVC air (that has oily vapor in it) is being put into the air intake. At normal operating temps, the oil is a vapor. Let it sit a while though when the engine cools, and it'll turn into small drops of oil, which will then trickle down to the lowest spot they can find. On startup, that oil is either sitting on the valves, or some other low spot in the intake, and it'll get sucked into the engine. There's your blue smoke on startup.
It's generally not a big deal. Some people (like myself) are a little OCD about stuff like that. I've ordered a PCV filter that I'll install once I pick up my truck. All it does is catch most of the oil vapors and lets it puddle up in a container rather than in the intake or on the valves. No real need to do so...people drive for hundreds of thousands of miles with no issues. But like I said, I'm a little OCD about stuff like that, and I'd rather not have oil getting into my air intake and possibly gunking stuff up over time.
For a while now I've noticed a white/blue smoke when I start up my truck. I guess its more white than blue and it typically happens when the truck has been sitting a few days. It had been sitting since Sunday (four days) and when I started it today it smoked at start up and for 10-20 seconds after.
Y'all think this something to worry about or just condensation build up in the exhaust system.
Thanks
Y'all think this something to worry about or just condensation build up in the exhaust system.
Thanks
Last edited by 1954Radio; Nov 11, 2010 at 11:54 PM.
I've had that happen a couple times, at widely placed mileage.
I think the thin oil has a lot to do with it. I asked the dealer. They had no idea. As usual. I can only imagine it is oil leak down. Not BAD seals just leak down. At start up it may start off a bit rich and washing down the cylinders as well. Mine only does it a few seconds. If it did it longer than that I'd get worried. Of course it has only done that twice. Both times after sitting for a few days. Another thing both times my truck was parked on an angle. I have a steep driveway. Don't know if that has anything to do with it. Next time I leave it for a length of time I am going to park it on a flat section and see what goes...
I think the thin oil has a lot to do with it. I asked the dealer. They had no idea. As usual. I can only imagine it is oil leak down. Not BAD seals just leak down. At start up it may start off a bit rich and washing down the cylinders as well. Mine only does it a few seconds. If it did it longer than that I'd get worried. Of course it has only done that twice. Both times after sitting for a few days. Another thing both times my truck was parked on an angle. I have a steep driveway. Don't know if that has anything to do with it. Next time I leave it for a length of time I am going to park it on a flat section and see what goes...
Thanks for the feedback. I'm feeling a lot better about this now. I have about 20K on the truck but it does sit for a week at a time sometimes.
I know this will start a debate, but any thoughts on my switching to full syn oil after the first oil change having any impact? I think my first oil change was at 5K.
Thanks again!
I know this will start a debate, but any thoughts on my switching to full syn oil after the first oil change having any impact? I think my first oil change was at 5K.
Thanks again!
No because I have had two oil changes in between my blue smoke shows and I still am running regular oil.
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Thanks for the feedback. I'm feeling a lot better about this now. I have about 20K on the truck but it does sit for a week at a time sometimes.
I know this will start a debate, but any thoughts on my switching to full syn oil after the first oil change having any impact? I think my first oil change was at 5K.
Thanks again!
I know this will start a debate, but any thoughts on my switching to full syn oil after the first oil change having any impact? I think my first oil change was at 5K.
Thanks again!
Last edited by 1954Radio; Nov 12, 2010 at 03:44 PM.
I get the blue smoke occasionally on startup, usually if its hot and sits an hour or so or it sits a few days unused. If I didnt have remote start I would never notice it, I have 13K miles on it, non synth oil. It uses no oil between changes (4-5K between changes) so I'm not really that concerned about it. Besides it has 87,000 more miles to go under warranty



