2009 SXT w/ Electrical Problems
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2009 SXT w/ Electrical Problems
While driving or with the car in park with the engine running occasionally the dashboard light come on, the gauges go to 0 and the wipers turn on. None of the turn signals or other steering column functions work while this is happening, nor do the front windows work from the drivers door the rear windows do however. Started on Fri night, but only when the drivers door was open. Drove it to and from work on Saturday and it was fine, went to leave Saturday night and now it does it all the time. I have just over 38k miles on it. Also I have the remote start option on mine and if I use the remote start it will not do these things until I put the "key"/fob in and turn it to "ON".
Any ideas/suggestions are appreciated... I'm taking it in tomorrow to have a wiring harness recall done and hoping that will fix it, but if there are ideas, I would like to be "armed" with them too.
Thanks!
Krystal
Any ideas/suggestions are appreciated... I'm taking it in tomorrow to have a wiring harness recall done and hoping that will fix it, but if there are ideas, I would like to be "armed" with them too.
Thanks!
Krystal
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Sounds like wiring to me... Hopefully this recall will have you fixed up...
Thankfully, the one I bought my mom (a '10 model) has been fine, even the rotors are still in great shape and EVERYBODY I know with a Journey has had rotor issues...
Thankfully, the one I bought my mom (a '10 model) has been fine, even the rotors are still in great shape and EVERYBODY I know with a Journey has had rotor issues...
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I did a search on the dash problem. Have the dealer also check for any codes. Here is what I found.
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Vehicle Issue No cluster lamps or function.;Headlamps and wipers default to on position. Interior subsystems non-functional. Code U0100 set - Non-Communication with the TIPM, PCM, ECM, WCM.
System or Component Abnormal Behavior / Function,Inoperative;Customer Concern (No DTCs),DTC / Error Message;Instrument Panel / Cluster,Gauges,Illumination System;Interior
Recommendation The system topology displays no communication with all interior (IHS CAN ECU's. The IHS CAN bus wires were tested with an oscilloscope at the harness bundle near TIPM connector C7 and it showed no activity on IHS CAN + (wh/gry) circuit D265. Found that this circuit was shorted to ground with a ohm reading of 4-8 ohms. Isolated the cabin HIS CAN bus by disconnecting C113 located in the upper left corner under the dashboard. Next, obtain an IHS CAN C ohm reading INSIDE the cabin at the radio connector. This vehicle contains 2 dominant ECU's - the Cluster (EMIC) and the TIPM and the non-dominant ECU's - the DMFL, DMFR, RADIO, HVAC, and the HFM. Correct total termination resistance of 57.1 ohms before any disconnections were made. Continued to disconnect the modules on the bus one by one and watch for change in ohm reading. The vehicle was not equipped with the ECU's: AMP and VES3 however it is important to realize the wiring harnesses for these ECU's are still in the vehicle as part of the main harness. The VES3 harness extended up the left A-Pillar and across the headliner. It contains the IHS CAN C wires. The left sun visor mounting screw crushed and shorted the IHS CAN C+ wire. As soon as the tech unscrewed the visor the Ohm meter display showed 'OPEN' between IHS CAN+ and ground, verifying that the problem had been found. Repaired wiring and moved harness away form sun visor mounting screw.
I did a search on the dash problem. Have the dealer also check for any codes. Here is what I found.
Search Result
Vehicle Issue No cluster lamps or function.;Headlamps and wipers default to on position. Interior subsystems non-functional. Code U0100 set - Non-Communication with the TIPM, PCM, ECM, WCM.
System or Component Abnormal Behavior / Function,Inoperative;Customer Concern (No DTCs),DTC / Error Message;Instrument Panel / Cluster,Gauges,Illumination System;Interior
Recommendation The system topology displays no communication with all interior (IHS CAN ECU's. The IHS CAN bus wires were tested with an oscilloscope at the harness bundle near TIPM connector C7 and it showed no activity on IHS CAN + (wh/gry) circuit D265. Found that this circuit was shorted to ground with a ohm reading of 4-8 ohms. Isolated the cabin HIS CAN bus by disconnecting C113 located in the upper left corner under the dashboard. Next, obtain an IHS CAN C ohm reading INSIDE the cabin at the radio connector. This vehicle contains 2 dominant ECU's - the Cluster (EMIC) and the TIPM and the non-dominant ECU's - the DMFL, DMFR, RADIO, HVAC, and the HFM. Correct total termination resistance of 57.1 ohms before any disconnections were made. Continued to disconnect the modules on the bus one by one and watch for change in ohm reading. The vehicle was not equipped with the ECU's: AMP and VES3 however it is important to realize the wiring harnesses for these ECU's are still in the vehicle as part of the main harness. The VES3 harness extended up the left A-Pillar and across the headliner. It contains the IHS CAN C wires. The left sun visor mounting screw crushed and shorted the IHS CAN C+ wire. As soon as the tech unscrewed the visor the Ohm meter display showed 'OPEN' between IHS CAN+ and ground, verifying that the problem had been found. Repaired wiring and moved harness away form sun visor mounting screw.
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I did a search on the dash problem. Have the dealer also check for any codes. Here is what I found.
Search Result
Vehicle Issue No cluster lamps or function.;Headlamps and wipers default to on position. Interior subsystems non-functional. Code U0100 set - Non-Communication with the TIPM, PCM, ECM, WCM.
System or Component Abnormal Behavior / Function,Inoperative;Customer Concern (No DTCs),DTC / Error Message;Instrument Panel / Cluster,Gauges,Illumination System;Interior
Recommendation The system topology displays no communication with all interior (IHS CAN ECU's. The IHS CAN bus wires were tested with an oscilloscope at the harness bundle near TIPM connector C7 and it showed no activity on IHS CAN + (wh/gry) circuit D265. Found that this circuit was shorted to ground with a ohm reading of 4-8 ohms. Isolated the cabin HIS CAN bus by disconnecting C113 located in the upper left corner under the dashboard. Next, obtain an IHS CAN C ohm reading INSIDE the cabin at the radio connector. This vehicle contains 2 dominant ECU's - the Cluster (EMIC) and the TIPM and the non-dominant ECU's - the DMFL, DMFR, RADIO, HVAC, and the HFM. Correct total termination resistance of 57.1 ohms before any disconnections were made. Continued to disconnect the modules on the bus one by one and watch for change in ohm reading. The vehicle was not equipped with the ECU's: AMP and VES3 however it is important to realize the wiring harnesses for these ECU's are still in the vehicle as part of the main harness. The VES3 harness extended up the left A-Pillar and across the headliner. It contains the IHS CAN C wires. The left sun visor mounting screw crushed and shorted the IHS CAN C+ wire. As soon as the tech unscrewed the visor the Ohm meter display showed 'OPEN' between IHS CAN+ and ground, verifying that the problem had been found. Repaired wiring and moved harness away form sun visor mounting screw.
I did a search on the dash problem. Have the dealer also check for any codes. Here is what I found.
Search Result
Vehicle Issue No cluster lamps or function.;Headlamps and wipers default to on position. Interior subsystems non-functional. Code U0100 set - Non-Communication with the TIPM, PCM, ECM, WCM.
System or Component Abnormal Behavior / Function,Inoperative;Customer Concern (No DTCs),DTC / Error Message;Instrument Panel / Cluster,Gauges,Illumination System;Interior
Recommendation The system topology displays no communication with all interior (IHS CAN ECU's. The IHS CAN bus wires were tested with an oscilloscope at the harness bundle near TIPM connector C7 and it showed no activity on IHS CAN + (wh/gry) circuit D265. Found that this circuit was shorted to ground with a ohm reading of 4-8 ohms. Isolated the cabin HIS CAN bus by disconnecting C113 located in the upper left corner under the dashboard. Next, obtain an IHS CAN C ohm reading INSIDE the cabin at the radio connector. This vehicle contains 2 dominant ECU's - the Cluster (EMIC) and the TIPM and the non-dominant ECU's - the DMFL, DMFR, RADIO, HVAC, and the HFM. Correct total termination resistance of 57.1 ohms before any disconnections were made. Continued to disconnect the modules on the bus one by one and watch for change in ohm reading. The vehicle was not equipped with the ECU's: AMP and VES3 however it is important to realize the wiring harnesses for these ECU's are still in the vehicle as part of the main harness. The VES3 harness extended up the left A-Pillar and across the headliner. It contains the IHS CAN C wires. The left sun visor mounting screw crushed and shorted the IHS CAN C+ wire. As soon as the tech unscrewed the visor the Ohm meter display showed 'OPEN' between IHS CAN+ and ground, verifying that the problem had been found. Repaired wiring and moved harness away form sun visor mounting screw.